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**tadacia** · 06-28-2011, 04:05 AM

But surely knowing (and ideally understanding) the Buddha's teaching on the origin of phenomena, including the asavas and suffering, may be helpful in 'eradicating' or liberating one from suffering?

The Buddha didn't teach "the origin of phenomena. Hr did teach the origin of suffering.

Though not if it is just speculating about the nature of phenomena, divorced from the context of liberation from suffering. ...which is what all this extraneous "inherent existence/non-existence" nonsense is.

The point I was trying to make, per the Lankavatara quote, ...which the Buddha did not teach...

was that it seems a good idea both to understand what the Buddha actually taught That is an EXCELLENT idea. Too bad so few pay attention to it.

(and to some extent, what later respected commentators taught),
The Buddha's teachings are clear enough without any need for "commentators" injecting their superstitions into it.

and also to know whether or not a particular teaching is relevant and helpful to one's own particular situation, or to someone else's. Thet Buddha's own teachings are relevant to everyone, at any time.

Which may or may not be similar to the point you were making, I'm not quite sure. Decidedy not.

06-28-2011, 04:05 AM	#28
tadacia Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 438 Senior Member	But surely knowing (and ideally understanding) the Buddha's teaching on the origin of phenomena, including the asavas and suffering, may be helpful in 'eradicating' or liberating one from suffering? The Buddha didn't teach "the origin of phenomena. Hr did teach the origin of suffering. Though not if it is just speculating about the nature of phenomena, divorced from the context of liberation from suffering. ...which is what all this extraneous "inherent existence/non-existence" nonsense is. The point I was trying to make, per the Lankavatara quote, ...which the Buddha did not teach... was that it seems a good idea both to understand what the Buddha actually taught That is an EXCELLENT idea. Too bad so few pay attention to it. (and to some extent, what later respected commentators taught), The Buddha's teachings are clear enough without any need for "commentators" injecting their superstitions into it. and also to know whether or not a particular teaching is relevant and helpful to one's own particular situation, or to someone else's. Thet Buddha's own teachings are relevant to everyone, at any time. Which may or may not be similar to the point you were making, I'm not quite sure. Decidedy not.
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