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**DarrenBent** · 06-07-2011, 12:07 PM

@stuka – Look like in your opinion what does not come from the Tripitaka are either sophistry, hogwash, wild speculation and what have you.

Sophistry, hogwash, and wild speculation are sophistry, hogwash, and wild speculation. Does not matter where it comes from or doesn't come from. Is this how the Great Masters of Vajrayana Logic address legitimate criticism of their speculative views, by resorting to innuendo? You do not speak for my "opinion" or how I discern hogwash from the teachings of the Buddha.

It is a stand I notice, taken by some followers of the Theravada tradition on other Buddhist schools. You are beating on a straw dog. The fact of what is and what is not the Buddha's teachings has nothing to do with Theravada, mahayana, the tibetan religions.

A sign of real commitment to its teaching indeed, My commitment is to the teachings of the man we know of as "the Buddha". You might have heard of him. Tell me, have you ever heard of the Majjhima Nikaya? The Samyutta Nikaya? Please be honest--do you even have a copy of either? Have you ever even cracked open a copy?

... but at the same time showing up the intolerance side Funny how folks who would play fast and loose with the Buddha's teachings are the first to accuse folks who challenge their wild speculations of "intolerance". I note, however, that you have said exactly zero to address the legitimate criticisms that have been presented toward your thesis. Instead you have chosen to villify those who critique it.

...as well towards teaching that are either not in accordance to their expectation My expectation toward teaching that are presented as "Buddhist" is that they comport with the teachings of the Buddha. We are, after all, supposedly Buddhists, even if only in name.

...or their lack of understanding of it. Ah, yes, the Courtier's Reply. We don't see The Emperor's New Clothes because we lack the ability to. This is the cheap ploy of the carnival barker. The fact is that I understand what you wrote. My criticism arises from my understanding of your assertions and of the Buddhas liberative teachings which I doubt you have much, if any, understanding of. My criticism address the vast chasm between the two.

Before we can move forward to any meaningful discussion, suggest you go, read up more on the development on the Buddhist Faith and try, at the same time to also read up on some thoughts of other Buddhist schools as well. I do not recall soliciting your advice. Even a child and a village idiot is capable of pointing out that The Emperor Has No Clothes. Suggest you defend your thesis and quit cowering behind Ad Hominems.

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DarrenBent Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 431 Senior Member	@stuka – Look like in your opinion what does not come from the Tripitaka are either sophistry, hogwash, wild speculation and what have you. Sophistry, hogwash, and wild speculation are sophistry, hogwash, and wild speculation. Does not matter where it comes from or doesn't come from. Is this how the Great Masters of Vajrayana Logic address legitimate criticism of their speculative views, by resorting to innuendo? You do not speak for my "opinion" or how I discern hogwash from the teachings of the Buddha. It is a stand I notice, taken by some followers of the Theravada tradition on other Buddhist schools. You are beating on a straw dog. The fact of what is and what is not the Buddha's teachings has nothing to do with Theravada, mahayana, the tibetan religions. A sign of real commitment to its teaching indeed, My commitment is to the teachings of the man we know of as "the Buddha". You might have heard of him. Tell me, have you ever heard of the Majjhima Nikaya? The Samyutta Nikaya? Please be honest--do you even have a copy of either? Have you ever even cracked open a copy? ... but at the same time showing up the intolerance side Funny how folks who would play fast and loose with the Buddha's teachings are the first to accuse folks who challenge their wild speculations of "intolerance". I note, however, that you have said exactly zero to address the legitimate criticisms that have been presented toward your thesis. Instead you have chosen to villify those who critique it. ...as well towards teaching that are either not in accordance to their expectation My expectation toward teaching that are presented as "Buddhist" is that they comport with the teachings of the Buddha. We are, after all, supposedly Buddhists, even if only in name. ...or their lack of understanding of it. Ah, yes, the Courtier's Reply. We don't see The Emperor's New Clothes because we lack the ability to. This is the cheap ploy of the carnival barker. The fact is that I understand what you wrote. My criticism arises from my understanding of your assertions and of the Buddhas liberative teachings which I doubt you have much, if any, understanding of. My criticism address the vast chasm between the two. Before we can move forward to any meaningful discussion, suggest you go, read up more on the development on the Buddhist Faith and try, at the same time to also read up on some thoughts of other Buddhist schools as well. I do not recall soliciting your advice. Even a child and a village idiot is capable of pointing out that The Emperor Has No Clothes. Suggest you defend your thesis and quit cowering behind Ad Hominems.
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