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**kictainiSot** · 08-07-2010, 10:13 AM

When a sense organ makes contact with an object something we call ego immediately reacts to this contact in some way, e.g. it is attracted or averted by it - this plants a seed in the consciousness, which when watered by repeated ego responses will bear fruit or have an effect. This is the process of karma as I see it. It is something to do with our reaction to contacts we make continuously. If the reaction is anger, for example, this is not good because it causes harm somewhere down the line. If the seed of anger is watered by more anger this could lead to extreme harm, such as murder, taking place and this in turn is the cause of another effect further down the line in the stream of consciousness.

Makes sense to me.

Additionally, I feel that each reaction further reinforces that conceptual notions that led one to such action. Like, "I want to kill this person because they have done me great harm." Unconsciously acting on the premise that another has done one great harm solidifies the notion that harm was done. So not only are the habits of anger and hurting others strengthened, also the concept of harm coming from without (the reason for killing in this example) is strengthened.

If one believes that the mind does not depend on the body for existence it is easy to see how holding such a powerful belief (of harm coming from without) could lead to an existence in a hell realm. I personally do not believe that the mind is dependent on the body for its existence, but if someone else does, this reasoning would not be helpful.

Also, I wonder sometimes that when we lash out and attack another are we not really attacking our unconscious projections. Not to deny the reality of another or the harm one can do to another. But if our mind is dominated by ignorance then when we attack based on our perception of another (as such and such evil person or whatever) are we not in some way, speaking loosely, attacking that perception? Since perception comes from the mind that would mean that we are in a way attacking our own mind. If that is so, then it would make a lot of sense about how anger could lead to very detrimental results in our mindstream.

08-07-2010, 10:13 AM	#9
kictainiSot Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 536 Senior Member	When a sense organ makes contact with an object something we call ego immediately reacts to this contact in some way, e.g. it is attracted or averted by it - this plants a seed in the consciousness, which when watered by repeated ego responses will bear fruit or have an effect. This is the process of karma as I see it. It is something to do with our reaction to contacts we make continuously. If the reaction is anger, for example, this is not good because it causes harm somewhere down the line. If the seed of anger is watered by more anger this could lead to extreme harm, such as murder, taking place and this in turn is the cause of another effect further down the line in the stream of consciousness. Makes sense to me. Additionally, I feel that each reaction further reinforces that conceptual notions that led one to such action. Like, "I want to kill this person because they have done me great harm." Unconsciously acting on the premise that another has done one great harm solidifies the notion that harm was done. So not only are the habits of anger and hurting others strengthened, also the concept of harm coming from without (the reason for killing in this example) is strengthened. If one believes that the mind does not depend on the body for existence it is easy to see how holding such a powerful belief (of harm coming from without) could lead to an existence in a hell realm. I personally do not believe that the mind is dependent on the body for its existence, but if someone else does, this reasoning would not be helpful. Also, I wonder sometimes that when we lash out and attack another are we not really attacking our unconscious projections. Not to deny the reality of another or the harm one can do to another. But if our mind is dominated by ignorance then when we attack based on our perception of another (as such and such evil person or whatever) are we not in some way, speaking loosely, attacking that perception? Since perception comes from the mind that would mean that we are in a way attacking our own mind. If that is so, then it would make a lot of sense about how anger could lead to very detrimental results in our mindstream.
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