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**Catieliecutty** · 08-10-2010, 01:47 AM

The thing is about karma is that it is a samsaric phenomena - it is brought about by the ego-clinging self that is existant in samsara.

Is not this "existent self" a doctrine of Self? How is this seen to comport with the Buddha's teaching of Anatta?

Once we are liberated it can be seen that the self is a delusion as is of course karma but we have to be liberated from samsara for this to happen

Am I liberated, then, since I see that notions of "self" are delusions, and that karma is a delusion?

until hen we are subject to the self, the ego and to karma...

...enlightened beings who have transcended samsara are of course not subject to this, as there is no inherent self and a complete awakening to the emptiness of all phenomena.

By what mechanism are you proposing this? Presumably, by "samsara", you are referring to superstitions of rounds of reincarnation -- correct me if you are not. Does the Flying Spaghetti Monster sit up in the skies and touch enlightened beings with his Noodly Appendage, and thus issue a reprieve from this "self" you propose, karma, and ego?

08-10-2010, 01:47 AM	#15
Catieliecutty Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 507 Senior Member	The thing is about karma is that it is a samsaric phenomena - it is brought about by the ego-clinging self that is existant in samsara. Is not this "existent self" a doctrine of Self? How is this seen to comport with the Buddha's teaching of Anatta? Once we are liberated it can be seen that the self is a delusion as is of course karma but we have to be liberated from samsara for this to happen Am I liberated, then, since I see that notions of "self" are delusions, and that karma is a delusion? until hen we are subject to the self, the ego and to karma... ...enlightened beings who have transcended samsara are of course not subject to this, as there is no inherent self and a complete awakening to the emptiness of all phenomena. By what mechanism are you proposing this? Presumably, by "samsara", you are referring to superstitions of rounds of reincarnation -- correct me if you are not. Does the Flying Spaghetti Monster sit up in the skies and touch enlightened beings with his Noodly Appendage, and thus issue a reprieve from this "self" you propose, karma, and ego?
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