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**stoneeZef** · 04-13-2011, 03:23 PM

My intention is not to "wowser" (if by that you mean show off) and I'm not on a vendetta. I'm not identifying with Levine; I'm DIS-identifying with him. Who is the WE implied in your use of "our path?" How do you determine beneficence? How open minded should Buddhism be? Buddha's "Awakening...tells us that good and bad are not mere social conventions, but are built into the mechanics of how the world is constructed. We may be free to design our lives, but we are not free to change the underlying rules that determine what good and bad actions are, and how the process of kamma works itself out. Thus cultural relativism — even though it may have paved the way for many of us to leave our earlier religious orientations and enter the Buddhist fold — has no place once we are within that fold. There are certain ways of acting that are inherently unskillful, and we are fools if we insist on our right to behave in those ways" (Thanissaro Bhikkhu, Refuge, p. 55; http://www.accesstoinsight.org/lib/a...awakening.html).

sure
critical discussions, on some occassions, can be beneficial, that is, if helps us see our path more clearly
criticism just for the sake of it, like "wowsering", is not beneficial

buddhism is something very opened minded, like one big democratic family, that has alot of disagreements about on individual viewpoints

if Noah is helping others, even if he has his own version of Buddhism, as long as he is not involved in harming others, its OK

you do sound like you are on some kind of vendetta

if not, why are you "identifying" with Noah so strongly, if you care to share?

04-13-2011, 03:23 PM	#12
stoneeZef Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 478 Senior Member	My intention is not to "wowser" (if by that you mean show off) and I'm not on a vendetta. I'm not identifying with Levine; I'm DIS-identifying with him. Who is the WE implied in your use of "our path?" How do you determine beneficence? How open minded should Buddhism be? Buddha's "Awakening...tells us that good and bad are not mere social conventions, but are built into the mechanics of how the world is constructed. We may be free to design our lives, but we are not free to change the underlying rules that determine what good and bad actions are, and how the process of kamma works itself out. Thus cultural relativism — even though it may have paved the way for many of us to leave our earlier religious orientations and enter the Buddhist fold — has no place once we are within that fold. There are certain ways of acting that are inherently unskillful, and we are fools if we insist on our right to behave in those ways" (Thanissaro Bhikkhu, Refuge, p. 55; http://www.accesstoinsight.org/lib/a...awakening.html). sure critical discussions, on some occassions, can be beneficial, that is, if helps us see our path more clearly criticism just for the sake of it, like "wowsering", is not beneficial buddhism is something very opened minded, like one big democratic family, that has alot of disagreements about on individual viewpoints if Noah is helping others, even if he has his own version of Buddhism, as long as he is not involved in harming others, its OK you do sound like you are on some kind of vendetta if not, why are you "identifying" with Noah so strongly, if you care to share?
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