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**bjacogaerllyo** · 04-15-2011, 06:34 AM

Enlightened minds do not have a sense of "me".

Do you know this as a proven fact? Are you going by someone's words/beliefs or the convention of the belief system?

Can you ever really crawl into someone's head and truly analyze whether or not they do have the sense of "I"? If the answer is no, then the statement that "enlightened minds do not have a sense of I" would amount to unverified unproven speculation.

You have asserted this as though it were a fact. But it is far from a fact that some people do not experience the sense of "I". Whether they say they do or not doesn't prove anything. So called "enlightened" people can be wrong, mistaken, misled, intentionally misleading, or very well versed in the art of self-deception.

Therefore, the statement it is ultimately mere speculation.

04-15-2011, 06:34 AM	#28
bjacogaerllyo Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 472 Senior Member	Enlightened minds do not have a sense of "me". Do you know this as a proven fact? Are you going by someone's words/beliefs or the convention of the belief system? Can you ever really crawl into someone's head and truly analyze whether or not they do have the sense of "I"? If the answer is no, then the statement that "enlightened minds do not have a sense of I" would amount to unverified unproven speculation. You have asserted this as though it were a fact. But it is far from a fact that some people do not experience the sense of "I". Whether they say they do or not doesn't prove anything. So called "enlightened" people can be wrong, mistaken, misled, intentionally misleading, or very well versed in the art of self-deception. Therefore, the statement it is ultimately mere speculation.
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