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Old 04-02-2011, 06:34 AM   #23
Rwujnezq

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Madhupindika Sutta: The Ball of Honey

"Now, when there is no eye, when there are no forms, when there is no eye-consciousness, it is impossible that one will delineate a delineation of contact. When there is no delineation of contact, it is impossible that one will delineate a delineation of feeling. When there is no delineation of feeling, it is impossible that one will delineate a delineation of perception. When there is no delineation of perception, it is impossible that one will delineate a delineation of thinking. When there is no delineation of thinking, it is impossible that one will delineate a delineation of being assailed by the perceptions & categories of objectification.

"When there is no ear...

"When there is no nose...

"When there is no tongue...

"When there is no body...
My reading of this sutta is it does not proclaim there is "no eye", "no ear", etc, as the Heart Sutra does. This sutta is merely stating "when" or "if" there is no eye, then the other conditions for suffering cannot arise.

Imo, this sutta is simply explaining conditionality (cause & effect).

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