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Old 11-09-2010, 06:13 PM   #1
q9h9pPne

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Default Is the First Noble Truth well spoken? Is it incomplete?
Dear forum

The First Noble Truth was spoken in at least two ways, as follows:

The Noble Truth of Suffering (dukkha), monks, is this:

Birth is suffering, aging is suffering, sickness is suffering, death is suffering;

Association with the unpleasant is suffering, dissociation from the pleasant is suffering, not to receive what one desires is suffering;

In brief, the five aggregates subject to grasping are suffering.

Dhammacakkappavattana Sutta
"Now what is the noble truth of stress?

Birth is stressful, aging is stressful, death is stressful;

Sorrow, lamentation, pain, grief & despair are stressful;

Association with the unbeloved is stressful; separation from the loved is stressful; not getting what one wants is stressful.

In short, the five aggregates subject to grasping are stressful.

Maha-satipatthana Sutta
My question or inquiry is, do we regard this diagnosis of suffering to be complete?

Are there significant forms of suffering omitted from the 1st Noble Truth?

For example, if a spiritually sick person were to read the 1st Noble Truth, may their illness not be on the list?

May they think: "I cannot find my problem here and I should search elsewhere".

Kind regards

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