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**Npbfamgt** · 11-10-2010, 10:22 PM

[...] with out abandoning ignorance and giving rise to clear knowing [...] such a thing is not possible.

Absolutly... I do not see any trouble with this.

Often human beings feel confused, desiring to understand, frustrated because they do not know a reason, path or solutions, etc.

I was thinking this is a little different to "association with the unloved/disliked" and "wanting something and not getting it".

OK... here is the issue...

What kind of Dukkha does this provoke?

Dukkha is a state of mind. The Buddha clearly set three states of mind that embrace all mental experiences. Hate that arise from the one what we want to be ride off; Greed that arise form what we get attached too; and Ignorance that arise when we do not understand or we can not discern about. The lack of discernment brings us Dukkha; confusion is Dukkha; lack of understanding brings Dukkha... The unique state of an Ignorant mind is Dukkha as has been stated in the "Three Poisons".

Is this what you mean Element?

11-10-2010, 10:22 PM	#11
Npbfamgt Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 564 Senior Member	[...] with out abandoning ignorance and giving rise to clear knowing [...] such a thing is not possible. Absolutly... I do not see any trouble with this. Often human beings feel confused, desiring to understand, frustrated because they do not know a reason, path or solutions, etc. I was thinking this is a little different to "association with the unloved/disliked" and "wanting something and not getting it". OK... here is the issue... What kind of Dukkha does this provoke? Dukkha is a state of mind. The Buddha clearly set three states of mind that embrace all mental experiences. Hate that arise from the one what we want to be ride off; Greed that arise form what we get attached too; and Ignorance that arise when we do not understand or we can not discern about. The lack of discernment brings us Dukkha; confusion is Dukkha; lack of understanding brings Dukkha... The unique state of an Ignorant mind is Dukkha as has been stated in the "Three Poisons". Is this what you mean Element?
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