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**RedImmik** · 11-14-2010, 10:51 AM

But you said dhukka lakkana is to be observed (vipassana insight) independent of the impermanence quality of phenomena in a previous thread.

Hi Deshy

I do not recall saying dukkha stands as one quality on its own without dragging in impermanence.

I probably would have said dukkha is different to impermanence. But dukkha certainly depends on impermanence.

Impermanence is change. Just change.

But dukkha - I am not sure how to define it best - but one attempt is dukkha is the utilitarian quality of impermanent things.

Kind regards

utilitarianism: the link between actions [or things] and their happy or unhappy outcomes [capacities]

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RedImmik Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 401 Senior Member	But you said dhukka lakkana is to be observed (vipassana insight) independent of the impermanence quality of phenomena in a previous thread. Hi Deshy I do not recall saying dukkha stands as one quality on its own without dragging in impermanence. I probably would have said dukkha is different to impermanence. But dukkha certainly depends on impermanence. Impermanence is change. Just change. But dukkha - I am not sure how to define it best - but one attempt is dukkha is the utilitarian quality of impermanent things. Kind regards utilitarianism: the link between actions [or things] and their happy or unhappy outcomes [capacities] Read more: http://www.businessdictionary.com/de...#ixzz15E6ZF4EA
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