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**R1king** · 09-01-2010, 09:54 AM

Objective: "of or pertaining to something that can be known".

Many more definitions of this word below... by "objective" truth I am referring to something akin to 4-8, truth that is purported to exist out there. Not so much an object of knowledge.

ob·jec·tive
/əbˈdʒɛktɪv/ Show Spelled[uhb-jek-tiv] Show IPA
–noun
1.
something that one's efforts or actions are intended to attain or accomplish; purpose; goal; target: the objective of a military attack; the objective of a fund-raising drive.
2.
Grammar .
a.
Also called objective case. (in English and some other languages) a case specialized for the use of a form as the object of a transitive verb or of a preposition, as him in The boy hit him, or me in He comes to me with his troubles.
b.
a word in that case.
3.
Also called object glass, object lens, objective lens. Optics . (in a telescope, microscope, camera, or other optical system) the lens or combination of lenses that first receives the rays from the object and forms the image in the focal plane of the eyepiece, as in a microscope, or on a plate or screen, as in a camera.
–adjective
4.
being the object or goal of one's efforts or actions.
5.
not influenced by personal feelings, interpretations, or prejudice; based on facts; unbiased: an objective opinion.
6.
intent upon or dealing with things external to the mind rather than with thoughts or feelings, as a person or a book.
7.
being the object of perception or thought; belonging to the object of thought rather than to the thinking subject ( opposed to subjective).
8.
of or pertaining to something that can be known, or to something that is an object or a part of an object; existing independent of thought or an observer as part of reality.
9.
Grammar .
a.
pertaining to the use of a form as the object of a transitive verb or of a preposition.
b.
(in English and some other languages) noting the objective case.
c.
similar to such a case in meaning.
d.
(in case grammar) pertaining to the semantic role of a noun phrase that denotes something undergoing a change of state or bearing a neutral relation to the verb, as the rock in The rock moved or in The child threw the rock.
10.
being part of or pertaining to an object to be drawn: an objective plane.
11.
Medicine/Medical . (of a symptom) discernible to others as well as the patient.

Quote from: KoolAid
Maybe I am splitting hairs here, but the only truth I can ever find is based on perspective and perception, which are subjective. Objective truth only seems to exist as much as people agree on it, which is really more of a collection of subjective truths.

Yes, and splitting epistemological hairs is not relevant to the Buddha's teachings on suffering. I can see and know suffering. I can see and know the quenching of suffering. That is enough.

True enough, thanks for sharing, helps me to relate as I feel the same way about other things like karma & rebirth.

09-01-2010, 09:54 AM	#24
R1king Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 650 Senior Member	Objective: "of or pertaining to something that can be known". Many more definitions of this word below... by "objective" truth I am referring to something akin to 4-8, truth that is purported to exist out there. Not so much an object of knowledge. ob·jec·tive /əbˈdʒɛktɪv/ Show Spelled[uhb-jek-tiv] Show IPA –noun 1. something that one's efforts or actions are intended to attain or accomplish; purpose; goal; target: the objective of a military attack; the objective of a fund-raising drive. 2. Grammar . a. Also called objective case. (in English and some other languages) a case specialized for the use of a form as the object of a transitive verb or of a preposition, as him in The boy hit him, or me in He comes to me with his troubles. b. a word in that case. 3. Also called object glass, object lens, objective lens. Optics . (in a telescope, microscope, camera, or other optical system) the lens or combination of lenses that first receives the rays from the object and forms the image in the focal plane of the eyepiece, as in a microscope, or on a plate or screen, as in a camera. –adjective 4. being the object or goal of one's efforts or actions. 5. not influenced by personal feelings, interpretations, or prejudice; based on facts; unbiased: an objective opinion. 6. intent upon or dealing with things external to the mind rather than with thoughts or feelings, as a person or a book. 7. being the object of perception or thought; belonging to the object of thought rather than to the thinking subject ( opposed to subjective). 8. of or pertaining to something that can be known, or to something that is an object or a part of an object; existing independent of thought or an observer as part of reality. 9. Grammar . a. pertaining to the use of a form as the object of a transitive verb or of a preposition. b. (in English and some other languages) noting the objective case. c. similar to such a case in meaning. d. (in case grammar) pertaining to the semantic role of a noun phrase that denotes something undergoing a change of state or bearing a neutral relation to the verb, as the rock in The rock moved or in The child threw the rock. 10. being part of or pertaining to an object to be drawn: an objective plane. 11. Medicine/Medical . (of a symptom) discernible to others as well as the patient. Quote from: KoolAid Maybe I am splitting hairs here, but the only truth I can ever find is based on perspective and perception, which are subjective. Objective truth only seems to exist as much as people agree on it, which is really more of a collection of subjective truths. Yes, and splitting epistemological hairs is not relevant to the Buddha's teachings on suffering. I can see and know suffering. I can see and know the quenching of suffering. That is enough. True enough, thanks for sharing, helps me to relate as I feel the same way about other things like karma & rebirth.
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