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**bug_user** · 04-27-2012, 07:33 AM

...when I was a teenager (around 14-15 ) wishing for something like this...it also appears to be rather similar to Vajrayana Phowa.

yes. it would be expected the discursive imagination would construe this sutta to be similar to Vajrayana Phowa

but the Buddha simply & literally said here: "if the mind has long been nurtured with conviction, nurtured with virtue, nurtured with learning, nurtured with relinquishment, nurtured with discernment then this leads (gamani) the mind (citta) to becoming (hoti) lofty (uddha) and distinguished/noble (visesa)

although literal 'rebirth' may be imagined, it appears this is not present in that Sutta. it appears literal 'rebirth' is being inferred, as explained in AN 2.23 & AN 2.25

04-27-2012, 07:33 AM	#3
bug_user Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 542 Senior Member	...when I was a teenager (around 14-15 ) wishing for something like this...it also appears to be rather similar to Vajrayana Phowa. yes. it would be expected the discursive imagination would construe this sutta to be similar to Vajrayana Phowa but the Buddha simply & literally said here: "if the mind has long been nurtured with conviction, nurtured with virtue, nurtured with learning, nurtured with relinquishment, nurtured with discernment then this leads (gamani) the mind (citta) to becoming (hoti) lofty (uddha) and distinguished/noble (visesa) although literal 'rebirth' may be imagined, it appears this is not present in that Sutta. it appears literal 'rebirth' is being inferred, as explained in AN 2.23 & AN 2.25
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