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**DoctorAlexandro** · 08-09-2012, 06:55 PM

I believe there has been a very noticable increase in monks who are prepared to wipe the slate clean...

The basic problem with Theravada Buddhism is it was hijacked by Brahmanism a long time ago & this continues to be the case. The monks are unwilling to desist from tainting most of the teachings with the flavour of reincarnation/rebirth.

The sutta below is interesting, given each translator I have read, be it Bodhi, Thanissaro, Piya Tan, Nanananda, Dhammanando, etc, have translated it to accord with rebirth belief.

The original Theravada commentaries translated this correctly, i.e., with 'dhamma' translated as 'dhamma practises'.

But the modern translators insist on the flavour of Nibbana as the end of reincarnations, despite the senseless translation.

[Incorrect translation:]

All phenomena [such as rocks & solar systems] are rooted in desire.

All (sabbe) phenomena (dhamma) come into play through attention.

All phenomena have contact as their origination.

All phenomena [such as rocks & solar systems] have feeling as their meeting place.

All phenomena [such as rocks & solar systems] have concentration as their presiding state.

All phenomena [such as rocks & solar systems] have mindfulness as their governing principle.

All phenomena [such as rocks & solar systems] have discernment as their surpassing state.

All phenomena [such as rocks & solar systems] have release as their heartwood.

All phenomena [such as rocks & solar systems] gain their footing in the deathless.

All phenomena [such as rocks & solar systems] have Nibbana as their final end.

Mula Sutta: Rooted [Correct translation:]

All dhamma practises are rooted in zeal (chanda iddhipada).

All dhamma practises come into play through attention.

All dhamma practises have contact as their origination.

All dhamma practises converge on feelings.

All dhamma practises have concentration as their presiding state.

All dhamma practises are governed by mindfulness.

All dhamma practises have discernment as their surpassing state.

All dhamma practises have liberation as their heartwood.

All dhamma practises gain a footing in the deathless.

All dhamma practises have Nibbana as their culmination/fulfilment.

Mula Sutta: Rooted

08-09-2012, 06:55 PM	#4
DoctorAlexandro Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 364 Senior Member	I believe there has been a very noticable increase in monks who are prepared to wipe the slate clean... The basic problem with Theravada Buddhism is it was hijacked by Brahmanism a long time ago & this continues to be the case. The monks are unwilling to desist from tainting most of the teachings with the flavour of reincarnation/rebirth. The sutta below is interesting, given each translator I have read, be it Bodhi, Thanissaro, Piya Tan, Nanananda, Dhammanando, etc, have translated it to accord with rebirth belief. The original Theravada commentaries translated this correctly, i.e., with 'dhamma' translated as 'dhamma practises'. But the modern translators insist on the flavour of Nibbana as the end of reincarnations, despite the senseless translation. [Incorrect translation:] All phenomena [such as rocks & solar systems] are rooted in desire. All (sabbe) phenomena (dhamma) come into play through attention. All phenomena have contact as their origination. All phenomena [such as rocks & solar systems] have feeling as their meeting place. All phenomena [such as rocks & solar systems] have concentration as their presiding state. All phenomena [such as rocks & solar systems] have mindfulness as their governing principle. All phenomena [such as rocks & solar systems] have discernment as their surpassing state. All phenomena [such as rocks & solar systems] have release as their heartwood. All phenomena [such as rocks & solar systems] gain their footing in the deathless. All phenomena [such as rocks & solar systems] have Nibbana as their final end. Mula Sutta: Rooted [Correct translation:] All dhamma practises are rooted in zeal (chanda iddhipada). All dhamma practises come into play through attention. All dhamma practises have contact as their origination. All dhamma practises converge on feelings. All dhamma practises have concentration as their presiding state. All dhamma practises are governed by mindfulness. All dhamma practises have discernment as their surpassing state. All dhamma practises have liberation as their heartwood. All dhamma practises gain a footing in the deathless. All dhamma practises have Nibbana as their culmination/fulfilment. Mula Sutta: Rooted
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