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**LOVEBoy** · 08-10-2012, 03:10 AM

I don't see anything wrong with the differently translated suttas that can't be put down to an evolving English language. As for your 'rocks & solar systems' I think it means aggregates as your link actually suggests.

There is an equivalent sutta. It means skilful dhammas, as follows:

“What, Samiddhi, is the conditioning basis of the purposive thoughts that arise in a person?”—”Name-and-form, venerable sir.”

“From what does their variety derive? —”From the elements.”

“What is their origin?” —”Contact.”

“On what do they converge?”—”Feeling.”

“What is their head?”—”Concentration.”

“What is their master?”—”Mindfulness.”

“What is their climax?”—”Wisdom.”

“What is their essence?”—”Liberation.”

“Where do they merge?”—”In the Deathless.”

“Well spoken, Samiddhi, well spoken! You have answered well the various questions put to you. But do not be proud of yourself on that account!”

AN 9.14 The word 'dhamma' in the Mula Sutta is as follows:

"O Bhikkhus. The footprints of all land-bound creatures fit within the footprint of the elephant; the elephant's footprint is said to be the supreme footprint in terms of size. Similarly all skilful dhammas have heedfulness as their base, converge within the bounds of heedfulness. Heedfulness may be said to be supreme amongst those dhammas." [S.V.43]

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LOVEBoy Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 487 Senior Member	I don't see anything wrong with the differently translated suttas that can't be put down to an evolving English language. As for your 'rocks & solar systems' I think it means aggregates as your link actually suggests. There is an equivalent sutta. It means skilful dhammas, as follows: “What, Samiddhi, is the conditioning basis of the purposive thoughts that arise in a person?”—”Name-and-form, venerable sir.” “From what does their variety derive? —”From the elements.” “What is their origin?” —”Contact.” “On what do they converge?”—”Feeling.” “What is their head?”—”Concentration.” “What is their master?”—”Mindfulness.” “What is their climax?”—”Wisdom.” “What is their essence?”—”Liberation.” “Where do they merge?”—”In the Deathless.” “Well spoken, Samiddhi, well spoken! You have answered well the various questions put to you. But do not be proud of yourself on that account!” AN 9.14 The word 'dhamma' in the Mula Sutta is as follows: "O Bhikkhus. The footprints of all land-bound creatures fit within the footprint of the elephant; the elephant's footprint is said to be the supreme footprint in terms of size. Similarly all skilful dhammas have heedfulness as their base, converge within the bounds of heedfulness. Heedfulness may be said to be supreme amongst those dhammas." [S.V.43]
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