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**Enfotanab** · 08-02-2012, 01:35 AM

What a theravada should consider, that the sixth jana, there are two more behind nibbanam.

I don't think this is correct. According to suttas, the Buddha only talked about 4 jhanas and others were merely referred to as "entered & remained in the dimension of..." The four jhanas were later named as rupa jhanas for clarity and to be distinguished from the four immaterial attainments/formless jhana/arupa jhana (named so in commentaries) which follow the fourth jhana.

According to suttas, it seems possible to attain liberation with only the first four jhanas.

08-02-2012, 01:35 AM	#13
Enfotanab Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 398 Senior Member	What a theravada should consider, that the sixth jana, there are two more behind nibbanam. I don't think this is correct. According to suttas, the Buddha only talked about 4 jhanas and others were merely referred to as "entered & remained in the dimension of..." The four jhanas were later named as rupa jhanas for clarity and to be distinguished from the four immaterial attainments/formless jhana/arupa jhana (named so in commentaries) which follow the fourth jhana. According to suttas, it seems possible to attain liberation with only the first four jhanas.
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