i've read somewhere (can't recall) that nirodha samapatti(ninth jhana) can be experienced with access concentration and that the jhanas are not entirely necessary for this to occur.
i believe the first time one experiences nirodha samapatti it may be sudden and last but a few mind moments, i read that this is called GLIMPSING nibbana and when the mind starts again and the senses come back on-line this person is sotapanna(the lowest degree of saints) 3 fetters have been extinguished identity view, doubt, clinging to rites and rituals.