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**Phighicle** · 06-14-2012, 10:02 AM

Hello forum friends,

The Mahali Sutta caught my attention. The lecture I have gotten from it is that dukkha and its realization is a very basic step toward the practice of a dispassionate and still mind.

Here a quote from it:

[...]what, lord, is the cause, what the requisite condition, for the defilement of beings? How are beings defiled with cause, with requisite condition?"

[...] if form were exclusively stressful — followed by stress, infused with stress and not infused with pleasure — beings would not be infatuated with form. But because form is also pleasurable — followed by pleasure, infused with pleasure and not infused with stress — beings are infatuated with form. Through infatuation, they are captivated. Through captivation, they are defiled. This is the cause, this the requisite condition, for the defilement of beings. And this is how beings are defiled with cause, with requisite condition.

"If feeling were exclusively stressful...

"If perception were exclusively stressful...

"If fabrications were exclusively stressful...

"If consciousness were exclusively stressful...

"And what, lord, is the cause, what the requisite condition, for the purification of beings? How are beings purified with cause, with requisite condition?"

"Mahali, if form were exclusively pleasurable — followed by pleasure, infused with pleasure and not infused with stress — beings would not be disenchanted with form. But because form is also stressful — followed by stress, infused with stress and not infused with pleasure — beings are disenchanted with form. Through disenchantment, they grow dispassionate. Through dispassion, they are purified. This is the cause, this the requisite condition, for the purification of beings. And this is how beings are purified with cause, with requisite condition.

"If feeling were exclusively pleasurable...

"If perception were exclusively pleasurable...

"If fabrications were exclusively pleasurable...

"If consciousness were exclusively pleasurable...

Mahali Sutta
IMO, seems that this teaching can aid for a deep understanding of the First Noble Truth about knowing dukkha there, where the untamed mind can not see it.

Any comments?

06-14-2012, 10:02 AM	#1
Phighicle Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 482 Senior Member	Growing Dispassionate Hello forum friends, The Mahali Sutta caught my attention. The lecture I have gotten from it is that dukkha and its realization is a very basic step toward the practice of a dispassionate and still mind. Here a quote from it: [...]what, lord, is the cause, what the requisite condition, for the defilement of beings? How are beings defiled with cause, with requisite condition?" [...] if form were exclusively stressful — followed by stress, infused with stress and not infused with pleasure — beings would not be infatuated with form. But because form is also pleasurable — followed by pleasure, infused with pleasure and not infused with stress — beings are infatuated with form. Through infatuation, they are captivated. Through captivation, they are defiled. This is the cause, this the requisite condition, for the defilement of beings. And this is how beings are defiled with cause, with requisite condition. "If feeling were exclusively stressful... "If perception were exclusively stressful... "If fabrications were exclusively stressful... "If consciousness were exclusively stressful... "And what, lord, is the cause, what the requisite condition, for the purification of beings? How are beings purified with cause, with requisite condition?" "Mahali, if form were exclusively pleasurable — followed by pleasure, infused with pleasure and not infused with stress — beings would not be disenchanted with form. But because form is also stressful — followed by stress, infused with stress and not infused with pleasure — beings are disenchanted with form. Through disenchantment, they grow dispassionate. Through dispassion, they are purified. This is the cause, this the requisite condition, for the purification of beings. And this is how beings are purified with cause, with requisite condition. "If feeling were exclusively pleasurable... "If perception were exclusively pleasurable... "If fabrications were exclusively pleasurable... "If consciousness were exclusively pleasurable... Mahali Sutta IMO, seems that this teaching can aid for a deep understanding of the First Noble Truth about knowing dukkha there, where the untamed mind can not see it. Any comments?
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