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**lionsiy** · 12-15-2011, 05:02 AM

I have but if I quoted them, the Snake of MN 22 may rear its ugly & dangerous head

I do not think they exist, but I am always willing to revisit the SuttaVinaya for any clarification, however slight. Please share any Suttas which come to your mind in this connection re: momentariness/two truths.

I'd be interested in reading a sensible debate about abhidhamma, especially as its been mentioned here in the past.

Momentariness, per the abhidhamma, is fundamentally a theory of flux, a theory of incessant change.

Two truths, per the abhidhamma, is fundamentally a theory of conventional truth and ultimate truth, or put another way, conventional reality and ultimate reality.

These two ideas do not appear in the Suttas, although abhidhamma theorists generally suggest that these two ideas can be extrapolated from the Suttas. In any event, these two ideas are often mentioned whenever Buddhism is discussed in any detail, and so I thought it might be important to note where these ideas come from.

12-15-2011, 05:02 AM	#12
lionsiy Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 565 Senior Member	I have but if I quoted them, the Snake of MN 22 may rear its ugly & dangerous head I do not think they exist, but I am always willing to revisit the SuttaVinaya for any clarification, however slight. Please share any Suttas which come to your mind in this connection re: momentariness/two truths. I'd be interested in reading a sensible debate about abhidhamma, especially as its been mentioned here in the past. Momentariness, per the abhidhamma, is fundamentally a theory of flux, a theory of incessant change. Two truths, per the abhidhamma, is fundamentally a theory of conventional truth and ultimate truth, or put another way, conventional reality and ultimate reality. These two ideas do not appear in the Suttas, although abhidhamma theorists generally suggest that these two ideas can be extrapolated from the Suttas. In any event, these two ideas are often mentioned whenever Buddhism is discussed in any detail, and so I thought it might be important to note where these ideas come from.
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