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**AngelBee** · 05-01-2012, 07:01 AM

hi again, Stefos

what exactly is awareness? is it awareness of the discursive mind? what exactly is the purpose or goal of awareness?

in my understanding, when the mind has genuine awareness, it is silent. when the mind is aware & silent, it naturally converges with the in & out breathing

do not many esoteric Hindu traditions designate the breathing in & out as one of the "signs" of God? in Buddhism, the in & out breathing is the preliminary "sign" of right awareness. the Bible reports Jesus Christ "breathed" the Holy Spirit onto his disciples. what is "spirit" other than "breath"? is the Holy Spirit not Anapanasati?

to alienate Anapanasati from 'awareness' does not conform with most meditative traditions

regards

It depends essentially Element WHOM you ask, Doesn't it?
The Vedantist says be aware of being, that's it.
The Theravadan says be aware of body, breath, thought, etc.
The Christian says be aware of your fallen nature & God's spirit inside you at all times.

Awareness means various things in various spiritualities sir.

I will agree with you that "genuine" awareness is born from a silent mind or better yet IN silent perception of mind.
I do not believe that the mind converges w/the in & out breath, as the brain (OR mind?) sends out various waves of Theta, Beta, Delta and Alpha wavelengths each brainwave length denotes a different function of brain at least.

The word "Hindu" is inaccurate as "Hindu" denotes a HUGE umbrella encompassing spiritualities which are Atheistic, Nihilistic, and Deistic.

Regarding Jesus, the New Testament says he breathed upon him, in English, however what does the Greek say?
Furthermore, Jesus being God gave them the gift of the Holy Spirit, the New Testament says.

Finally sir, No I am not saying that anapanasati is separate from awareness. The issue is, is that the focus is understanding and not "Gee, that REALLY was a long breath" yes the breath is understood but not obsessed over, If I could say that.

Thank you,
Stefos

05-01-2012, 07:01 AM	#15
AngelBee Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 462 Senior Member	hi again, Stefos what exactly is awareness? is it awareness of the discursive mind? what exactly is the purpose or goal of awareness? in my understanding, when the mind has genuine awareness, it is silent. when the mind is aware & silent, it naturally converges with the in & out breathing do not many esoteric Hindu traditions designate the breathing in & out as one of the "signs" of God? in Buddhism, the in & out breathing is the preliminary "sign" of right awareness. the Bible reports Jesus Christ "breathed" the Holy Spirit onto his disciples. what is "spirit" other than "breath"? is the Holy Spirit not Anapanasati? to alienate Anapanasati from 'awareness' does not conform with most meditative traditions regards It depends essentially Element WHOM you ask, Doesn't it? The Vedantist says be aware of being, that's it. The Theravadan says be aware of body, breath, thought, etc. The Christian says be aware of your fallen nature & God's spirit inside you at all times. Awareness means various things in various spiritualities sir. I will agree with you that "genuine" awareness is born from a silent mind or better yet IN silent perception of mind. I do not believe that the mind converges w/the in & out breath, as the brain (OR mind?) sends out various waves of Theta, Beta, Delta and Alpha wavelengths each brainwave length denotes a different function of brain at least. The word "Hindu" is inaccurate as "Hindu" denotes a HUGE umbrella encompassing spiritualities which are Atheistic, Nihilistic, and Deistic. Regarding Jesus, the New Testament says he breathed upon him, in English, however what does the Greek say? Furthermore, Jesus being God gave them the gift of the Holy Spirit, the New Testament says. Finally sir, No I am not saying that anapanasati is separate from awareness. The issue is, is that the focus is understanding and not "Gee, that REALLY was a long breath" yes the breath is understood but not obsessed over, If I could say that. Thank you, Stefos
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