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**proslaviy** · 05-01-2012, 12:41 PM

My experience with breath and mind:

I have panic attacks and I perceive that when I have panic attacks the breath is erratic and is slower unless my panic spikes and then the breathing becomes faster until full blown panic ensues. Not a fun place to be, let me tell you!

When angry, I notice the breath becoming more "deliberate" in the in and out breath.

To me, "watching the breath" is not Anapanasati, it is "watching the breath." To me, REAL Anapanasati is awareness of breath, body, etc.
I really do not appreciate concentration being taught as meditation, i.e. in many modern "meditation" groups.
It simply and truly is not.

The Sutta is deep. "Watching the breath" is not.

Thank you,
Stefos

Buddha said in the DO that in-&-out breaths are bodily fabrications.

In-&-out breaths are bodily fabrications. Directed thought & evaluation are verbal fabrications. Perceptions & feelings are mental fabrications.

MN 44 When you have panic attacks and you focus on the breath and calm the breath, the body calms down. This is why doctors ask you to take a deep breath and count to 10. By calming the breath, your body calms down. This is how you watch your body and breath in anapanasati. This is how you reflect how the breath qualifies as a bodily fabricator - taking fast breaths and watching how they affect your body -taking longer breaths and watching how they affect your body.

Anapanasati is the practice whereas satipatthana is just a set of instructions to be put into effect while doing the practice. As a single sutta alone, satipatthana has no flow. As you practice anapanasati, you essentially put into effect the salient points of the satipatthana sutta.

05-01-2012, 12:41 PM	#21
proslaviy Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 349 Senior Member	My experience with breath and mind: I have panic attacks and I perceive that when I have panic attacks the breath is erratic and is slower unless my panic spikes and then the breathing becomes faster until full blown panic ensues. Not a fun place to be, let me tell you! When angry, I notice the breath becoming more "deliberate" in the in and out breath. To me, "watching the breath" is not Anapanasati, it is "watching the breath." To me, REAL Anapanasati is awareness of breath, body, etc. I really do not appreciate concentration being taught as meditation, i.e. in many modern "meditation" groups. It simply and truly is not. The Sutta is deep. "Watching the breath" is not. Thank you, Stefos Buddha said in the DO that in-&-out breaths are bodily fabrications. In-&-out breaths are bodily fabrications. Directed thought & evaluation are verbal fabrications. Perceptions & feelings are mental fabrications. MN 44 When you have panic attacks and you focus on the breath and calm the breath, the body calms down. This is why doctors ask you to take a deep breath and count to 10. By calming the breath, your body calms down. This is how you watch your body and breath in anapanasati. This is how you reflect how the breath qualifies as a bodily fabricator - taking fast breaths and watching how they affect your body -taking longer breaths and watching how they affect your body. Anapanasati is the practice whereas satipatthana is just a set of instructions to be put into effect while doing the practice. As a single sutta alone, satipatthana has no flow. As you practice anapanasati, you essentially put into effect the salient points of the satipatthana sutta.
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