DiscussWorldIssues - Socio-Economic Religion and Political Uncensored Debate - View Single Post - Is the seven further lifetimes of a stream-enterer a myth?

**Sipewrio** · 08-13-2011, 03:17 AM

Hi Lazy, do you have a source for the quote, please?

It's in the Cullavagga. A discussion can be found here.

There were others who misapprehended or misrepesented his teachings and dissented based on what they thought they heard even when he was alive. The core teachings, the teachings of liberation, were repeated over and over in the suttas. Revisionism just isn't going to work here.

That may be so. But I haven't seen anything to suggest that this particular monk misapprehended the Buddha's teachings. He was consulted as a respected authority, a senior member of the community, and he declined to concur with the majority view. That's pretty much all that the records tell us, as far as I know.

And it doesn't appear to be some sort of revisionist campaign -- it's not like he said "Hell no, the Buddha taught eight noble truths and the doctrine of independent transmigration!". Probably it was over some question regarding the vinaya rules.

08-13-2011, 03:17 AM	#27
Sipewrio Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 436 Senior Member	Hi Lazy, do you have a source for the quote, please? It's in the Cullavagga. A discussion can be found here. There were others who misapprehended or misrepesented his teachings and dissented based on what they thought they heard even when he was alive. The core teachings, the teachings of liberation, were repeated over and over in the suttas. Revisionism just isn't going to work here. That may be so. But I haven't seen anything to suggest that this particular monk misapprehended the Buddha's teachings. He was consulted as a respected authority, a senior member of the community, and he declined to concur with the majority view. That's pretty much all that the records tell us, as far as I know. And it doesn't appear to be some sort of revisionist campaign -- it's not like he said "Hell no, the Buddha taught eight noble truths and the doctrine of independent transmigration!". Probably it was over some question regarding the vinaya rules.
	Quote