Thread
:
Eternalism & Nihilism: What exactly do the suttas say?
View Single Post
08-09-2011, 04:43 PM
#
3
icyfreshy
Join Date
Nov 2005
Posts
402
Senior Member
Brahmajāla Sutta: The All-embracing Net of Views
1.
Eternalism
(Sassatavāda): Views 1–4
30. "There are, bhikkhus, some recluses and brahmins who are eternalists (sassatavādā) and, who on four grounds, proclaim the self (attānańca) and the world (lokańca) to be eternal. And owing to what, with reference to what, do these honorable recluses and brahmins proclaim their views?
He speaks thus: 'The self and the world are eternal, barren, steadfast as a mountain peak, standing firm like a pillar. And though these beings roam and wander, pass away and re-arise, yet the self and the world remain the same just like eternity itself.
4.
Annihilationism
(Ucchedavāda): Views 51–57
84. "There are, bhikkhus, some recluses and brahmins who are annihilationists (ucchedavādā) and, who on seven grounds, proclaim the annihilation (ucchedaṃ), destruction (vināsaṃ) and extermination (vibhavaṃ) of an existent being (sattahi). And owing to what, with reference to what, do these honorable recluses and brahmins proclaim their views?
85. "Herein, bhikkhus, a certain recluse or a brahmin asserts the following doctrine and view: 'The self (ayaṃ attā), good sir, has material form; it is composed of the four primary elements and originates from father and mother. Since this self (ayaṃ attā), good sir, is annihilated and destroyed with the breakup of the body and does not exist after death, at this point the self (ayaṃ attā) is completely annihilated.' In this way some proclaim the annihilation, destruction, and extermination of an existent being (sato sattassa).
Sassata
(adj.) [Vedic śaśvat] eternal, perpetual D i.13; iii.31 sq., 137 sq.; M i.8, 426; A i.41; Dh 255; Dhs 1099; J i.468; Miln 413; DA i.112; dhuvasassata sure and certain Bu ii.111 sq.=J i.19; sassatiyā for ever, Sn 1075; a -- sassata J v.176; vi.315; sassatāyaŋ adv. (dat.) for ever (?) J i.468; v.172; Fausböll takes it=sassatā ayam (following the C.), and writes sassat'āyaŋ.
-- diṭṭhi eternalism, the doctrine that soul and world are eternal Dhs 1315; S ii.20; iii.98; Nett 40, 127. -- mūla eternalist Dpvs 6, 25. -- vāda an eternalist, eternalism D i.13; iii.108; S ii.20; iii.99, 182; iv.400; Pug 38; DA i.104 sq.; Ps i.155; VbhA 509. -- vādin eternalist Nett 111; Mhbv 110.
Quote
icyfreshy
View Public Profile
Find More Posts by icyfreshy
All times are GMT +1. The time now is
12:50 AM
.