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Eternalism & Nihilism: What exactly do the suttas say?
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buddha taught two types of right view:
1. defiled right view, siding with merit; and
2. transcendent right view, a factor of the noble path
And what is right view? Right view, I tell you, is of
two sorts
: There is right view with effluents [asava], siding with merit, resulting in the acquisitions [of becoming]; and there is noble right view, without effluents, transcendent, a factor of the path
Maha-cattarisaka Sutta the two suttas below, different in scope & intent, display the two types of right view
the 1st sutta states right view is that of 'existence'. the 2nd sutta states right view is that of neither existence or non-existence
Apannaka Sutta: A Safe Bet
A1. those...who hold this doctrine, hold this view — 'There is nothing (
natthi
) given, nothing offered, nothing sacrificed. There is no (natthi) fruit or result of good or bad actions. There is no this world, no other world, no mother, no father, no spontaneously born beings; no priests or contemplatives who, faring rightly and practicing rightly, proclaim this world and the other after having directly known and realized it for themselves' — it can be expected that, shunning these three skillful activities — good bodily conduct, good verbal conduct, good mental conduct — they will adopt & practice these three unskillful activities: bad bodily conduct, bad verbal conduct, bad mental conduct.
A3. Even if we didn't speak of the other world, this person is still criticized in the here-&-now by the wise as a person of bad habits &
wrong view: one who holds to a doctrine of non-existence (natthikavādo)
.
B1. Those who hold this doctrine, hold this view — 'There is (
atthi
) what is given, what is offered, what is sacrificed. There are fruits & results of good & bad actions. There is this world & the other world. There is mother & father. There are spontaneously born beings; there are priests & contemplatives who, faring rightly & practicing rightly, proclaim this world & the other after having directly known & realized it for themselves' — it can be expected that, shunning these three unskillful activities — bad bodily conduct, bad verbal conduct, bad mental conduct — they will adopt & practice these three skillful activities: good bodily conduct, good verbal conduct, good mental conduct.
B3. Even if we didn't speak of the other world...this...person is still praised in the here-&-now by the wise as a person of good habits &
right view: one who holds to a doctrine of existence (atthikavādo)
.
Thus this
safe-bet
teaching, when well grasped & adopted by him, covers both sides and leaves behind the possibility of the unskillful.
Kaccayanagotta Sutta: To Kaccayana Gotta (on Right View)
By & large, Kaccayana, this world is supported by (takes as its object) a polarity, that of existence & non-existence. But when one sees the origination of the world as it actually is with right discernment, 'non-existence' with reference to the world does not occur to one. When one sees the cessation of the world as it actually is with right discernment, 'existence' with reference to the world does not occur to one.
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