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**Itrtuawh** · 03-23-2012, 05:36 PM

quoting out of context is picking & chosing small extracts to assert a view contrary to dhamma. take quoting the extract below, alone, out of context:

The person is composed of the four great elements; when he dies, earth returns and goes back to the element of earth, water returns and goes back to the element of water, fire returns and goes back to the element of fire, wind returns and goes back to the element of wind, while the senses disappear into space.... Fools and wise alike are destroyed and perish at the breaking up of the body, they do not exist after death. it is wrong view because it refers to "the person" and asserts "persons" do not exist after death.

but that earth returns and goes back to the element of earth; that water returns and goes back to the element of water; etc, is not contrary to dhamma

if the extract is quoted out of context, the context being:"There is no fruit or result of good or bad actions; generosity is taught by idiots, etc" is sounds like Buddha taught earth does not go back to the element of earth; water does not go back to the element of water; etc

'Nihilism' means believing there is no fruit of kamma. 'Nihilism' means having a reckless attitude

kind regards

From SN 35.245 - Kimsuka Sutta - The Riddle Tree.

"When a monk discerns, as it actually is, the origination & passing away of the four great elements [earth, water, wind, & fire], my friend, it is to that extent that his vision is said to be well-purified."

03-23-2012, 05:36 PM	#16
Itrtuawh Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 503 Senior Member	quoting out of context is picking & chosing small extracts to assert a view contrary to dhamma. take quoting the extract below, alone, out of context: The person is composed of the four great elements; when he dies, earth returns and goes back to the element of earth, water returns and goes back to the element of water, fire returns and goes back to the element of fire, wind returns and goes back to the element of wind, while the senses disappear into space.... Fools and wise alike are destroyed and perish at the breaking up of the body, they do not exist after death. it is wrong view because it refers to "the person" and asserts "persons" do not exist after death. but that earth returns and goes back to the element of earth; that water returns and goes back to the element of water; etc, is not contrary to dhamma if the extract is quoted out of context, the context being:"There is no fruit or result of good or bad actions; generosity is taught by idiots, etc" is sounds like Buddha taught earth does not go back to the element of earth; water does not go back to the element of water; etc 'Nihilism' means believing there is no fruit of kamma. 'Nihilism' means having a reckless attitude kind regards From SN 35.245 - Kimsuka Sutta - The Riddle Tree. "When a monk discerns, as it actually is, the origination & passing away of the four great elements [earth, water, wind, & fire], my friend, it is to that extent that his vision is said to be well-purified."
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