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**boleroman** · 09-11-2011, 11:16 PM

Very well then, Kotthita my friend, I will give you an analogy; for there are cases where it is through the use of an analogy that intelligent people can understand the meaning of what is being said. It is as if two sheaves of reeds were to stand leaning against one another. In the same way, from name-&-form as a requisite condition comes consciousness, from consciousness as a requisite condition comes name-&-form.

Nalakalapiyo Sutta

Hi Element,
Great topic and I had to mention the above quote. In it we see consciousness and name-&-form propping each other up. I would love to look at this proposition in more depth, as I've always understood dualistic name-&-form building to be a function of (to arise from) a volitional consciousness. I figure then that my comprehension of these Pali terms is at fault, as I can't square the 'mutuality' of both. For me, one must necessarily precede the other?

09-11-2011, 11:16 PM	#4
boleroman Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 571 Senior Member	Very well then, Kotthita my friend, I will give you an analogy; for there are cases where it is through the use of an analogy that intelligent people can understand the meaning of what is being said. It is as if two sheaves of reeds were to stand leaning against one another. In the same way, from name-&-form as a requisite condition comes consciousness, from consciousness as a requisite condition comes name-&-form. Nalakalapiyo Sutta Hi Element, Great topic and I had to mention the above quote. In it we see consciousness and name-&-form propping each other up. I would love to look at this proposition in more depth, as I've always understood dualistic name-&-form building to be a function of (to arise from) a volitional consciousness. I figure then that my comprehension of these Pali terms is at fault, as I can't square the 'mutuality' of both. For me, one must necessarily precede the other?
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