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**ssyyyrruho** · 01-29-2012, 07:55 AM

Element,

Thank you very much for your letter and refs. Very helpful. As I said to Kaarine, Im looking for references on concentration that do not include discussions about jhana. Another way of putting it would be, references to concentration that lead us on the path, but are not inclusive of jhana. It seems that most refs to concentration are related to discussion of jhana. But there must also be significant refs to concentration /sammasamadhi/ that do not depend on attaining jhana. so for example, wherein mahasi method advocates ACCESS CONCENTRATION, there is mention of it in some comentary or abhidhamma, thus there must be discussion of something like access concentration in the suttas, from which the comentary or abhidhamma took its lead.

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ssyyyrruho Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 341 Senior Member	Element, Thank you very much for your letter and refs. Very helpful. As I said to Kaarine, Im looking for references on concentration that do not include discussions about jhana. Another way of putting it would be, references to concentration that lead us on the path, but are not inclusive of jhana. It seems that most refs to concentration are related to discussion of jhana. But there must also be significant refs to concentration /sammasamadhi/ that do not depend on attaining jhana. so for example, wherein mahasi method advocates ACCESS CONCENTRATION, there is mention of it in some comentary or abhidhamma, thus there must be discussion of something like access concentration in the suttas, from which the comentary or abhidhamma took its lead.
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