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**corsar-caribean** · 01-29-2012, 08:14 AM

...thus there must be discussion of something like access concentration in the suttas...

thank you, Michael

in my experience, there is no specific mention of access (neighbourhood) concentration in the Pali suttas. however, right concentration must begin from somewhere "right" and wrong concentration could not result in right concentration

thus i offered the quotes from MN 117 and SN 48.9 & 10, which refer to the obvious & requisite practise of right concentration prior to jhana

an interesting essay related to this topic is by Bhikkhu Bodhi about stream-entry & jhana (here), where Bhikkhu Bodhi clearly demonstrates how jhana is never mentioned in the suttas as an attribute of the stream-enterer

for the stream-enterer to make a clear vipassana breakthrough, some amount of samma samadhi is certainly necessary because the stream-enterer has entered the Noble Eightfold Path

kind regards

Element

01-29-2012, 08:14 AM	#6
corsar-caribean Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 434 Senior Member	...thus there must be discussion of something like access concentration in the suttas... thank you, Michael in my experience, there is no specific mention of access (neighbourhood) concentration in the Pali suttas. however, right concentration must begin from somewhere "right" and wrong concentration could not result in right concentration thus i offered the quotes from MN 117 and SN 48.9 & 10, which refer to the obvious & requisite practise of right concentration prior to jhana an interesting essay related to this topic is by Bhikkhu Bodhi about stream-entry & jhana (here), where Bhikkhu Bodhi clearly demonstrates how jhana is never mentioned in the suttas as an attribute of the stream-enterer for the stream-enterer to make a clear vipassana breakthrough, some amount of samma samadhi is certainly necessary because the stream-enterer has entered the Noble Eightfold Path kind regards Element
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