[mr.nemo]

Thanks Elements and others

i tried to do the experiment with nutriment #1 with the knowledge that i have on six sense bases etc.

i could see (with the mind eye) that when we start with nutriment #1 and when we are not mindful, nutriment #2, nutriment #2 and nutriment #3 happens automatically and simultaneously

for ex:
when we hear the word 'rice/bread'
ear+ sound + ear consiousness (cause) get together
and
the result (effect) is contact (passa)

the result of that is
Feeling (pleasant if we are hungry and like rice/bread or unpleasant if we hungry but do not like rice/bread, neither-pleasant-nor-unpleasant if we are not hungry)
and
Perception (rice/bread for all of us worldlings, four elements for those have Noble Right View if they are mindful, and just four elements for Arahnts)

Worldlings have two darts (one as a kamma vipaka, the other one because of ignorance)
Noble deciples have two darts again (one as a kamma vipaka, and other because there is no mindfulness)
Arahants have only one dart (as a kamma vipaka until the last breath of this life)

This testing can be done for all six sense bases and we all can see 'how far the above is true'

without trying do not come to a conclusion please