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**AM1VV9r6** · 10-30-2011, 05:56 PM

An excellent Abstract for the thread Element

hi KA

i have also come to the conclusion that mano as a sense organ may also be the dhamma chakku (the spiritual eye, the wisdom eye or the 'third eye')

thus, when the Buddha used the sense sphere triad of (1) mano; (2) dhamma & (3) mano-vinnana, mano may also be the "sense organ" that sees dhamma or truth

although mano as the "dhamma eye" does not make sense in respect to the arising of suffering, as i previously speculated, this possibly just means the "dhamma eye" is underdeveloped when suffering arises

with metta

element

manañca paṭicca dhamme ca uppajjati manoviññāṇaṃ

Dependent on the intellect & dhamme there arises consciousness at the intellect

Chachakka Sutta: The Six Sextets
Ayaṃ kho sā, bhikkhave, majjhimā paṭipadā tathāgatena abhisambuddhā cakkhukaraṇī ñāṇakaraṇī upasamāya abhiññāya sambodhāya nibbānāya saṃvattati.

This is the middle way realized by the Tathagata that — producing vision [the wisdom eye], producing knowledge — leads to calm, to direct knowledge, to self-awakening, to Unbinding.

Dhammacakkappavattana Sutta
Cakkhu (nt.) the eye

I. The eye as organ of sense -- (a) psychologically: cakkhunā rūpaŋ disvā "seeing visible object (shape) with the eye" (Nd2 on rūpa q. v.) is the defin. of this first & most important of the senses

II. The eye as the most important channel of mental acquiring, as faculty of perception & apperception; insight, knowledge (cp. veda, olda to vid, to see). In connection with ñāṇa (ghw_sis) it refers to the apperception of the truth (see dhamma -- cakkhu): intuition and recognition, which means perfect understanding (cp. the use of the phrase jānāti passati "to know and to see"=to understand clearly).

Most frequently as dhamma˚ "the eye of the truth," said of the attainment of that right knowledge which leads to Arahantship, in phrase virajaŋ vitamalaŋ dh -- cakkhuŋ uppajjati

III. The eye as the instr. of supersensuous perception, "clear" sight, clairvoyance. This is the gift of favoured beings whose senses are more highly developed than those of others, and who through right cognition have acquired the two "eyes" or visionary faculties, termed dibba-cakkhu & buddha -- cakkhu

Pali Dictionary

10-30-2011, 05:56 PM	#17
AM1VV9r6 Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 445 Senior Member	An excellent Abstract for the thread Element hi KA i have also come to the conclusion that mano as a sense organ may also be the dhamma chakku (the spiritual eye, the wisdom eye or the 'third eye') thus, when the Buddha used the sense sphere triad of (1) mano; (2) dhamma & (3) mano-vinnana, mano may also be the "sense organ" that sees dhamma or truth although mano as the "dhamma eye" does not make sense in respect to the arising of suffering, as i previously speculated, this possibly just means the "dhamma eye" is underdeveloped when suffering arises with metta element manañca paṭicca dhamme ca uppajjati manoviññāṇaṃ Dependent on the intellect & dhamme there arises consciousness at the intellect Chachakka Sutta: The Six Sextets Ayaṃ kho sā, bhikkhave, majjhimā paṭipadā tathāgatena abhisambuddhā cakkhukaraṇī ñāṇakaraṇī upasamāya abhiññāya sambodhāya nibbānāya saṃvattati. This is the middle way realized by the Tathagata that — producing vision [the wisdom eye], producing knowledge — leads to calm, to direct knowledge, to self-awakening, to Unbinding. Dhammacakkappavattana Sutta Cakkhu (nt.) the eye I. The eye as organ of sense -- (a) psychologically: cakkhunā rūpaŋ disvā "seeing visible object (shape) with the eye" (Nd2 on rūpa q. v.) is the defin. of this first & most important of the senses II. The eye as the most important channel of mental acquiring, as faculty of perception & apperception; insight, knowledge (cp. veda, olda to vid, to see). In connection with ñāṇa (ghw_sis) it refers to the apperception of the truth (see dhamma -- cakkhu): intuition and recognition, which means perfect understanding (cp. the use of the phrase jānāti passati "to know and to see"=to understand clearly). Most frequently as dhamma˚ "the eye of the truth," said of the attainment of that right knowledge which leads to Arahantship, in phrase virajaŋ vitamalaŋ dh -- cakkhuŋ uppajjati III. The eye as the instr. of supersensuous perception, "clear" sight, clairvoyance. This is the gift of favoured beings whose senses are more highly developed than those of others, and who through right cognition have acquired the two "eyes" or visionary faculties, termed dibba-cakkhu & buddha -- cakkhu Pali Dictionary
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