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**Ervins Dervish** · 10-31-2011, 04:55 AM

This is my take:

Consciousness is the defiled mind. As soon as we know something with the help of six sense bases that knowing is defiled with hate, greed or delusion for us worldlings.
This consciousness is defiled for Noble Deciples (stream-winners, once-returners, non-returners) if they are not mindful.

The consciousness is not defiled for Aarahnts. This is the pure mind or Mano.

As soon as an internal sense base contacts with external sense base and the relevant consciousness occurs there is a very fast process called 'Citta veethi' happens before we see/know any speech, deed (thought).
in this 'citta veethi' there are 17 citta moments and the '7 javan cittas' can be considered as sankhara (vitakka, viccara) in five aggregates.

10-31-2011, 04:55 AM	#18
Ervins Dervish Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 381 Senior Member	This is my take: Consciousness is the defiled mind. As soon as we know something with the help of six sense bases that knowing is defiled with hate, greed or delusion for us worldlings. This consciousness is defiled for Noble Deciples (stream-winners, once-returners, non-returners) if they are not mindful. The consciousness is not defiled for Aarahnts. This is the pure mind or Mano. As soon as an internal sense base contacts with external sense base and the relevant consciousness occurs there is a very fast process called 'Citta veethi' happens before we see/know any speech, deed (thought). in this 'citta veethi' there are 17 citta moments and the '7 javan cittas' can be considered as sankhara (vitakka, viccara) in five aggregates.
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