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Old 07-10-2010, 10:45 AM   #32
ArrereGarhync

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the manifestation of the material form agregate? ...the manifestation of the feeling aggregate? ..the manifestation of the perception aggregate?...the manifestation of the formations (sankhara) aggregate? ...the manifestation of the consciousness aggregate?"
It would be nice to know Pali. I investigated this quote and the word translated as "manifestation" is "paññāpanāya", which is rooted in the word panna, commonly known as "wisdom", but generically "cognition".

I tried to find some translations of this word but to no avail. However, it is found in the Mahanidana Sutta in an interesting way, as follows:
Ettāvatā[so far, to that extent, even by this much] adhivacana[designation, term, attribute, metaphor, metaphorical expression]patho[path, means, way],

ettāvatā nirutti[expln of words, grammatical analysis, etymological interpretation; pronunciation, dialect, way of speaking, expression]patho,

ettāvatā paññatti[making known, manifestation, description, designation, name, idea, notion, concept]patho,

ettāvatā paññāvacaraṃ [sphere of discernment],

ettāvatā vaṭṭaṃ vattati itthattaṃ paññāpanāya yadidaṃ nāmarūpaṃ saha viññāṇena aññamaññapaccayatā pavattati.

This is the extent to which there are means of designation, expression and delineation. This is the extent to which the sphere of discernment extends, the extent to which the cycle revolves for the manifesting (discernibility) of this world — i.e., name-and-form together with consciousness. [Thanissaro]

“...in so far only is there any pathway for verbal expression, in so far only is there any pathway for terminology, in so far only is there any pathway for designations, in so far only is there a whirling round for a designation of ’this-ness’ (ettāvatā vaṭṭaṃ vattati itthattaṃ paññāpanāya) that is to say, as far as name-and-form together with consciousness. [Bhikkhu Ñānananda] Whatever paññāpanāya means, it obviously is connected to mental cognition or mental manisfestation.

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