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**bredkumanfirst** · 10-04-2011, 08:49 PM

either am I

I am just saying "revelation" (not divine) can occur by processes beyond the will...just as a sunrise reveals a mountain

Cool. We agree on that, then.

But I'm curious: when you read the OP, did you feel that the context implied an unwilled sort of revelation? When I read it, I get impression that it's implying a divine or supernatural type of revelation, kinda like the Bible and Quaran. I'm asking only because it's interesting to me the way two or more people can read (or witness) the same thing and come away with very different understandings of it. It has deep epistemological and phenomenological implications that I think are relevant to the dhamma. But that's for another thread, I suppose. Don't want to derail this one too much. I'd have to give myself a warning...

10-04-2011, 08:49 PM	#17
bredkumanfirst Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 330 Senior Member	either am I I am just saying "revelation" (not divine) can occur by processes beyond the will...just as a sunrise reveals a mountain Cool. We agree on that, then. But I'm curious: when you read the OP, did you feel that the context implied an unwilled sort of revelation? When I read it, I get impression that it's implying a divine or supernatural type of revelation, kinda like the Bible and Quaran. I'm asking only because it's interesting to me the way two or more people can read (or witness) the same thing and come away with very different understandings of it. It has deep epistemological and phenomenological implications that I think are relevant to the dhamma. But that's for another thread, I suppose. Don't want to derail this one too much. I'd have to give myself a warning...
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