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Old 10-07-2011, 06:32 AM   #22
Vezazvqw

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Although Buddhist scriptures are not revealed by God they might be considered to be revealed by the Buddha.
imo, definitely not

imo, 'revelation' must be of 'truth' that is independent of subjective experience or subjective creation

such a 'revelation' must come from or be 'revealed' by objective reality

for example, the reality of gravitation was 'revealed' to Newton when he watched the fall of an apple from a tree

Newton did not subjectively create his theory of gravitation, like a musician creates a piece of music

instead, it was the apple and gravity itself that 'revealed' the reality of gravity to Newton

'revelation' is the same as a woman taking her clothes off and revealing her body to a young man

what is 'revealed' already exists, to be discovered via relevation

so when a woman takes off her clothing to the young man and the young man then describes the form of the woman's body to others, which entity does the revelation?

is the revelation by the woman who takes off her clothing?

or is the revelation by the young man when he describes the form of the woman's body to others?



Since the Buddha is a human being, are they still regarded as revealed texts, i.e. texts that reveal ultimate truths that may otherwise be inaccessible?
yes

just as gravity revealed itself to Newton, the ultimate truths of [the] conditionality [of suffering], impermanence, unsatisfactoriness & not-self were always accessible and were revealed to the Buddha

what was simply required was a mind with the appropriate receptivity for these truths to be revealed

please keep in mind, Moses, Jesus, Mohamed (P.B.U.M) and the other prophets were also human beings

again, i think it is important to define what or who does the relevation?

does God do the revelation? or does the prophet do the revelation?

is revelation by God to a prophet?

or is relevation the truth of God revealed by the prophet to man?


He was therefore able to access ultimate truths that are hidden from most people.
yes

the suttas state:

It could therefore be argued that the texts should be seen as revelations.
yes...possibly...probably

the suttas state of the Buddha's enlightenment:

The Buddha did, however, feel that these truths were accessible to others if they followed the correct path...
yes

but other religions are the same

God’s Wisdom Revealed by the Spirit

We do, however, speak a message of wisdom among the mature, but not the wisdom of this age or of the rulers of this age, who are coming to nothing. No, we declare God’s wisdom, a mystery that has been hidden and that God destined for our glory before time began. None of the rulers of this age understood it, for if they had, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory. However, as it is written:

“What no eye has seen,
what no ear has heard,
and what no human mind has conceived”—
the things God has prepared for those who love him—

these are the things God has revealed to us by his Spirit.

The Spirit searches all things, even the deep things of God. For who knows a person’s thoughts except their own spirit within them? In the same way no one knows the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God. What we have received is not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, so that we may understand what God has freely given us. This is what we speak, not in words taught us by human wisdom but in words taught by the Spirit, explaining spiritual realities with Spirit-taught words. The person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God but considers them foolishness, and cannot understand them because they are discerned only through the Spirit. The person with the Spirit makes judgments about all things, but such a person is not subject to merely human judgments, for,

“Who has known the mind of the Lord
so as to instruct him?”

But we have the mind of Christ.


1 Corinthians 2
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