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Old 07-28-2011, 05:45 AM   #10
hiedeemom

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It seems to me, on further reflection, that we already have mind-consciousness implied at the first link (ignorance), because there has to be something that is capable of being either ignorant or enlightened.
Your point seems still established in meta-physics and alaya-vinjana

It is the mind (citta) that has ignorance (and not mind-consciousness)

also, D.O. is not about the meta-physical existence (arising) of consciousness

D.O. is about how consciousness, as one condition (paccaya), is stimulated / generated/garnered / coloured / affected by ignorance in a way that contributes to suffering [per Sangaravo Sutta above]

When D.O. ends, liberated consciousness (and mind) remain [per Upaya Sutta above]

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