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**AK47rulz** · 07-29-2011, 01:44 AM

LOL. Talk about a loaded question!

No intention of loading anything Lazy, just the impression it gives me your statement. That is all.

Are you perhaps harboring an idea of Atman as equivalent to the physical body and its lifespan? No. I do not harbor any idea of an Atman. That is why I found the Khandha doctrine quite clear. What I can see are the aggregates and, yes, this is the only lifespan that this aggregates are about to endure. This, far for troubling, stills the mind.

My question was whether the sequencing of the links implicitly points to D.O. as kind of self-perpetuating loop, or complex of loops -- with each instance conditioning others, as well as being conditioned by others, on and on unless the chains are broken (via the eightfold path). "Self-perpetuating" is an apt word here because the illusion of self is one of the byproducts of the process. Too elaborated for what the teachings of the Buddha are about. Seems some kind of personal (not you) elaboration taken from Complex Systems field research. There are a bunch of them out there spread on the internet. Don't seems to lead to stillness of mind.

I remember Stuka has raised this issue before in relation to Buddhaghosa. It can be a good idea to have it here if you can find it.

07-29-2011, 01:44 AM	#14
AK47rulz Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 612 Senior Member	LOL. Talk about a loaded question! No intention of loading anything Lazy, just the impression it gives me your statement. That is all. Are you perhaps harboring an idea of Atman as equivalent to the physical body and its lifespan? No. I do not harbor any idea of an Atman. That is why I found the Khandha doctrine quite clear. What I can see are the aggregates and, yes, this is the only lifespan that this aggregates are about to endure. This, far for troubling, stills the mind. My question was whether the sequencing of the links implicitly points to D.O. as kind of self-perpetuating loop, or complex of loops -- with each instance conditioning others, as well as being conditioned by others, on and on unless the chains are broken (via the eightfold path). "Self-perpetuating" is an apt word here because the illusion of self is one of the byproducts of the process. Too elaborated for what the teachings of the Buddha are about. Seems some kind of personal (not you) elaboration taken from Complex Systems field research. There are a bunch of them out there spread on the internet. Don't seems to lead to stillness of mind. I remember Stuka has raised this issue before in relation to Buddhaghosa. It can be a good idea to have it here if you can find it.
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