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**TudareWQT** · 06-25-2011, 10:42 AM

Hi Jechbi,

And what can anyone do if some only accept the Dvepitaka instead of the Tipitaka? It's their assertion and right as well isn't it, which even the traditional Mahaviharins, despite their staunch orthodoxy, have to accept that the world of Theravada is not theirs alone in the end? And when brought into the light of the Four Frames of Reference as mentioned in an earlier post, what would you opine is the best route on this issue?

Most likely, the view of 'Dvepitaka-ists' will remain the domain of the 'fringe' crowd rather than the 'accepted majority', online and in real life, and I tend to agree with Element that Theravada is just another sect utilising the Pali Canon as part of its tradition, but as to whether or not it fully complies with it, that's another issue.

And from my experience with Theravadins, I guess even amongst this 'fringe' group, to compare with the Christians for example, some will take a similar evangelical Protestant view where the Apocryphal Books are devoid of any moral/spiritual value and hence they are completely rejected and expunged from the biblical canon as non divinely inspired and man made fables.

Yet, the traditional Protestant view is that, it is still befitting of some moral/spiritual value and when studied with an open mind, one can compare and contrast it with the actual teachings of Christ himself and benefit. And amongst the traditionalists, some view them as divinely inspired alongside with those who think it to be mere pious reading.

I would agree with the Elder Ananda on this at the end of the day...
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipit....072.than.html
'Those who teach a Dhamma for the abandoning of passion, for the abandoning of aversion, for the abandoning of delusion — their Dhamma is well-taught.
Those who have practiced for the abandoning of passion, for the abandoning of aversion, for the abandoning of delusion — they have practiced well in this world.
Those whose passion... aversion... delusion is abandoned, its root destroyed, made like a palmyra stump, deprived of the conditions of development, not destined for future arising: they, in this world, are well-gone.'"

"How amazing, sir. How astounding, that there is neither extolling of one's own Dhamma nor deprecation of another's, but just the teaching of the Dhamma in its proper sphere, speaking to the point without mentioning oneself.

06-25-2011, 10:42 AM	#9
TudareWQT Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 405 Senior Member	Hi Jechbi, And what can anyone do if some only accept the Dvepitaka instead of the Tipitaka? It's their assertion and right as well isn't it, which even the traditional Mahaviharins, despite their staunch orthodoxy, have to accept that the world of Theravada is not theirs alone in the end? And when brought into the light of the Four Frames of Reference as mentioned in an earlier post, what would you opine is the best route on this issue? Most likely, the view of 'Dvepitaka-ists' will remain the domain of the 'fringe' crowd rather than the 'accepted majority', online and in real life, and I tend to agree with Element that Theravada is just another sect utilising the Pali Canon as part of its tradition, but as to whether or not it fully complies with it, that's another issue. And from my experience with Theravadins, I guess even amongst this 'fringe' group, to compare with the Christians for example, some will take a similar evangelical Protestant view where the Apocryphal Books are devoid of any moral/spiritual value and hence they are completely rejected and expunged from the biblical canon as non divinely inspired and man made fables. Yet, the traditional Protestant view is that, it is still befitting of some moral/spiritual value and when studied with an open mind, one can compare and contrast it with the actual teachings of Christ himself and benefit. And amongst the traditionalists, some view them as divinely inspired alongside with those who think it to be mere pious reading. I would agree with the Elder Ananda on this at the end of the day... http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipit....072.than.html 'Those who teach a Dhamma for the abandoning of passion, for the abandoning of aversion, for the abandoning of delusion — their Dhamma is well-taught. Those who have practiced for the abandoning of passion, for the abandoning of aversion, for the abandoning of delusion — they have practiced well in this world. Those whose passion... aversion... delusion is abandoned, its root destroyed, made like a palmyra stump, deprived of the conditions of development, not destined for future arising: they, in this world, are well-gone.'" "How amazing, sir. How astounding, that there is neither extolling of one's own Dhamma nor deprecation of another's, but just the teaching of the Dhamma in its proper sphere, speaking to the point without mentioning oneself.
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