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**vSzsgifP** · 06-04-2011, 11:26 PM

Taking the risk to be wrong and finding the sutta beautiful I think that at the end Buddha states that he is beyond "human condition" or human nature (as the opposite of Buddha Nature) or by any other "human" categorization expected by regular people or "standard" human beings. I think that the sutta goes about The Buddha having surpased what is "human condition". That is why he is the Buddha. Surpassing it, he do not leave "human condition traces" told metaphorically as... "wheels of 1000 spokes..." instead of the regular "human conditioned" foot prints.

Human Condition is thoroughly explored in Bhikkhu Bodhi's "In the Buddha's Words" in the first Chapter where several suttas are selected: SN 3.3; SN 3.25; AN 3.35; SN 36.6; AN 8.6; SN 22.7; AN 2; DN 21; DN 15; AN 3.69; SN 15.1, 15.2, 15.5, 15.8; SN 22.99.

The Buddha not accepting any category for himself talks about his supreme mental condition... guessing maybe an "absoulte" state. But he do not state for himself a kind of the metaphysical categories or entity as we can found in the Mahayana traditions.

Just a tentative guess.

06-04-2011, 11:26 PM	#2
vSzsgifP Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 437 Senior Member	Taking the risk to be wrong and finding the sutta beautiful I think that at the end Buddha states that he is beyond "human condition" or human nature (as the opposite of Buddha Nature) or by any other "human" categorization expected by regular people or "standard" human beings. I think that the sutta goes about The Buddha having surpased what is "human condition". That is why he is the Buddha. Surpassing it, he do not leave "human condition traces" told metaphorically as... "wheels of 1000 spokes..." instead of the regular "human conditioned" foot prints. Human Condition is thoroughly explored in Bhikkhu Bodhi's "In the Buddha's Words" in the first Chapter where several suttas are selected: SN 3.3; SN 3.25; AN 3.35; SN 36.6; AN 8.6; SN 22.7; AN 2; DN 21; DN 15; AN 3.69; SN 15.1, 15.2, 15.5, 15.8; SN 22.99. The Buddha not accepting any category for himself talks about his supreme mental condition... guessing maybe an "absoulte" state. But he do not state for himself a kind of the metaphysical categories or entity as we can found in the Mahayana traditions. Just a tentative guess.
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