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**TSVIDeo** · 06-03-2011, 03:21 PM

It means you stop diaphragm breathing.

However, many meditators believe they have stopped breathing when in fact their minds have sloth & torpor. Their minds are too unclear to be aware of the breathing. These meditators then run around declaring they personally have attained the 4th jhana.

Pages 165 - 167 of this book discuss this misperception.

06-03-2011, 03:21 PM	#9
TSVIDeo Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 416 Senior Member	It means you stop diaphragm breathing. However, many meditators believe they have stopped breathing when in fact their minds have sloth & torpor. Their minds are too unclear to be aware of the breathing. These meditators then run around declaring they personally have attained the 4th jhana. Pages 165 - 167 of this book discuss this misperception.
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