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**QysnZWB4** · 05-08-2011, 01:10 AM

MN 117, Maha Cattarisaka SUtta (Bodhi trans):

7. “And what, bhikkhus, is right view that is affected by the taints, partaking of merit, ripening in the acquisitions? ‘There is what is given and what is offered and what is sacrificed; there is fruit and result of good and bad actions; there is this world and the other world; there is mother and father; there are beings who are reborn spontaneously; there are in the world good and virtuous recluses and brahmins who have realised for themselves by direct knowledge and declare this world and the other world.’ This is right view affected by taints, partaking of merit, ripening in the acquisitions.
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8. “And what, bhikkhus, is right view that is noble, taintless, supramundane, a factor of the path? The wisdom, the faculty of wisdom, the power of wisdom, the investigation-of-states enlightenment factor, the path factor of right view in one whose mind is noble, whose mind is taintless, who possesses the noble path and is developing the noble path:1103 this is right view that is noble, taintless, supramundane, a factor of the path. The actual word in Pali is lokuttara, which does not mean "supramundane" in the sense that you are using it, which is a later interpretation based upon a misinterpretation of the Buddha's teachings as a description of "the true nature of reality".

The idea that is popular among so-called "traditionalists" that "supramundane" teachings are only for those who are arhants is a misrepresentation of the Buddhas teachings. The Four Noble Truths, the Noble Eightfold Path -- the Buddha's own unique teachings -- are the lokuttara Path.

Edit: Thanissaro's translation ( http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipit....117.than.html )translates "Discernment" rather than "wisdom":

"And what is the right view that is without effluents, transcendent, a factor of the path? The discernment, the faculty of discernment, the strength of discernment, analysis of qualities as a factor for Awakening, the path factor of right view of one developing the noble path whose mind is noble, whose mind is free from effluents, who is fully possessed of the noble path. This is the right view that is without effluents, transcendent, a factor of the path.

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QysnZWB4 Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 482 Senior Member	MN 117, Maha Cattarisaka SUtta (Bodhi trans): 7. “And what, bhikkhus, is right view that is affected by the taints, partaking of merit, ripening in the acquisitions? ‘There is what is given and what is offered and what is sacrificed; there is fruit and result of good and bad actions; there is this world and the other world; there is mother and father; there are beings who are reborn spontaneously; there are in the world good and virtuous recluses and brahmins who have realised for themselves by direct knowledge and declare this world and the other world.’ This is right view affected by taints, partaking of merit, ripening in the acquisitions. * 8. “And what, bhikkhus, is right view that is noble, taintless, supramundane, a factor of the path? The wisdom, the faculty of wisdom, the power of wisdom, the investigation-of-states enlightenment factor, the path factor of right view in one whose mind is noble, whose mind is taintless, who possesses the noble path and is developing the noble path:1103 this is right view that is noble, taintless, supramundane, a factor of the path. The actual word in Pali is lokuttara, which does not mean "supramundane" in the sense that you are using it, which is a later interpretation based upon a misinterpretation of the Buddha's teachings as a description of "the true nature of reality". The idea that is popular among so-called "traditionalists" that "supramundane" teachings are only for those who are arhants is a misrepresentation of the Buddhas teachings. The Four Noble Truths, the Noble Eightfold Path -- the Buddha's own unique teachings -- are the lokuttara Path. Edit: Thanissaro's translation ( http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipit....117.than.html )translates "Discernment" rather than "wisdom": "And what is the right view that is without effluents, transcendent, a factor of the path? The discernment, the faculty of discernment, the strength of discernment, analysis of qualities as a factor for Awakening, the path factor of right view of one developing the noble path whose mind is noble, whose mind is free from effluents, who is fully possessed of the noble path. This is the right view that is without effluents, transcendent, a factor of the path.
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