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**Nabeqiv** · 05-21-2011, 06:21 AM

Hi sriv!

I went through the whole sutta and, far from giving an interpretation, it gave me a very accurate picture of the muddle that seem Brahmanism at the time of the Buddha. This two guys, Vasettha and Bharadvaja, were really confused because they were given a teaching that was taught dishonestly. The Buddha talks, because of them, about Brahma and shows them, telling the metaphor of "seen Brahma face to face" as a means to say if the teaching has been experienced and tested through direct knowledge... where, according to the lifestyle of Brahmins, such experience was impossible to achieve. The only way to "see Brahma face to face..." was about a honest practice through loving kindness, equanimity, compassion and sympathetic joy; also with out hate and ill-will and with discipline and pureness.

The Buddha talks about "union with Brahma", maybe, to reach them with his words and this union with Brahma can be the same ultimate goal as the one that is reached by the way he teaches the Dhamma... leading to the ceasing of suffering.

At the end they follow the Buddhadhamma but I don't know if both of them were thinking about "the union with Brahma" or Nirvana.

It is my best try for now...

05-21-2011, 06:21 AM	#2
Nabeqiv Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 481 Senior Member	Hi sriv! I went through the whole sutta and, far from giving an interpretation, it gave me a very accurate picture of the muddle that seem Brahmanism at the time of the Buddha. This two guys, Vasettha and Bharadvaja, were really confused because they were given a teaching that was taught dishonestly. The Buddha talks, because of them, about Brahma and shows them, telling the metaphor of "seen Brahma face to face" as a means to say if the teaching has been experienced and tested through direct knowledge... where, according to the lifestyle of Brahmins, such experience was impossible to achieve. The only way to "see Brahma face to face..." was about a honest practice through loving kindness, equanimity, compassion and sympathetic joy; also with out hate and ill-will and with discipline and pureness. The Buddha talks about "union with Brahma", maybe, to reach them with his words and this union with Brahma can be the same ultimate goal as the one that is reached by the way he teaches the Dhamma... leading to the ceasing of suffering. At the end they follow the Buddhadhamma but I don't know if both of them were thinking about "the union with Brahma" or Nirvana. It is my best try for now...
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