[ulnanVti]

Of course I will, dude. Well, you do answer the question in the negative, thereby dismissing the premise they're connected at all, which is required for any order. Element's explanation coincides with my understanding. Please share with me--if not now some other time--why your take on seclusion, calm and purification is different; perhaps start with a description of the conditions you mentioned. Are these conditions to induce jhana, stream entry, or both?
Respectfully & Peacefully
BG