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**yazetaw** · 05-10-2011, 11:16 PM

No. Just mind with sufficient absence of thought to comprehend the nature of the "self" thought.

Regards

Well.... I don't understand how not-self can be "experienced" without jhana that appears after the nimitta experience. I think the mind is still busy although it is subtle even during the nimitta experience. Or is it possible that you are talking about mindfulness that is enough to reflect on "not-self" without actually going into jhana? Just trying to understand what you're saying here

05-10-2011, 11:16 PM	#17
yazetaw Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 373 Senior Member	No. Just mind with sufficient absence of thought to comprehend the nature of the "self" thought. Regards Well.... I don't understand how not-self can be "experienced" without jhana that appears after the nimitta experience. I think the mind is still busy although it is subtle even during the nimitta experience. Or is it possible that you are talking about mindfulness that is enough to reflect on "not-self" without actually going into jhana? Just trying to understand what you're saying here
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