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**pongeystrhjst** · 11-10-2010, 05:47 AM

I often find people oppose the teaching that Jati in D.O. relates to birth of "I am". However In relation to birth of "I", there is this sutta

"Here, bhikkhus, the uninstructed worlding ... Reguards form as Self. That regarding, bhikkhus, is a formation. That formation - what is its source, what is its origin, from what is it born and produced? When ther uninstructed wordling .. is contacted by feeling born of ignorance contact, craving arises. Thence that formation is born."
Bodhi translation page 922

There is also another one. Also I would say it makes the most sense, instead of having jati mean birth of the aggregates

just my two cents

11-10-2010, 05:47 AM	#10
pongeystrhjst Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 718 Senior Member	I often find people oppose the teaching that Jati in D.O. relates to birth of "I am". However In relation to birth of "I", there is this sutta "Here, bhikkhus, the uninstructed worlding ... Reguards form as Self. That regarding, bhikkhus, is a formation. That formation - what is its source, what is its origin, from what is it born and produced? When ther uninstructed wordling .. is contacted by feeling born of ignorance contact, craving arises. Thence that formation is born." Bodhi translation page 922 There is also another one. Also I would say it makes the most sense, instead of having jati mean birth of the aggregates just my two cents
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