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**juliannamed** · 05-06-2011, 03:00 AM

Hey

There is an issue which I have a problem with. Specifically its in relation to the meaning of craving and desire-passion in Buddhadhamma.

Places where they are taught as being different

At Savatthi. "Monks, any desire-passion with regard to craving for forms is a defilement of the mind. Any desire-passion with regard to craving for sounds... craving for aromas... craving for flavors... craving for tactile sensations... craving for ideas is a defilement of the mind. When, with regard to these six bases, the defilements of awareness are abandoned, then the mind is inclined to renunciation. The mind fostered by renunciation feels malleable for the direct knowing of those qualities worth realizing." http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipit...-010.than.html

"And this, monks, is the noble truth of the origination of stress: the craving that makes for further becoming — accompanied by passion & delight, relishing now here & now there — i.e., craving for sensual pleasure, craving for becoming, craving for non-becoming.
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipit....011.than.html

To me I understand "Craving" to be different from "delight" since I understand delight to be the result of craving being temporarily satisfied. However how is craving different from passion? To me they are the same thing

Also does this mean that an Arahant would have no craving but still have passion and delight?

05-06-2011, 03:00 AM	#1
juliannamed Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 498 Senior Member	Desire-Passion and Craving, what's the difference? Hey There is an issue which I have a problem with. Specifically its in relation to the meaning of craving and desire-passion in Buddhadhamma. Places where they are taught as being different At Savatthi. "Monks, any desire-passion with regard to craving for forms is a defilement of the mind. Any desire-passion with regard to craving for sounds... craving for aromas... craving for flavors... craving for tactile sensations... craving for ideas is a defilement of the mind. When, with regard to these six bases, the defilements of awareness are abandoned, then the mind is inclined to renunciation. The mind fostered by renunciation feels malleable for the direct knowing of those qualities worth realizing." http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipit...-010.than.html "And this, monks, is the noble truth of the origination of stress: the craving that makes for further becoming — accompanied by passion & delight, relishing now here & now there — i.e., craving for sensual pleasure, craving for becoming, craving for non-becoming. http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipit....011.than.html To me I understand "Craving" to be different from "delight" since I understand delight to be the result of craving being temporarily satisfied. However how is craving different from passion? To me they are the same thing Also does this mean that an Arahant would have no craving but still have passion and delight?
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