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Also something else of note, that we don't want to put such people up on a pedestal, this won't help us:

"If we put people up on pedestals and worship them and try to turn them into saviours, we will only be disappointed. Nobody can save us. Nobody can live our life for us. Our spiritual friends are part of the conditions which help us to make an effort with spiritual practice but the effort is all our own. We can draw inspiration from the lives of others, past and present, but we have to act from that inspiration. We need to become Stream Entrants. In that way we become a refuge unto ourselves." from http://ratnaghosa.fwbo.net/sanghatwo.html

They may be able to help steer us straight, but we shouldn't make them out to be special. Any kind of thought like that means that we expect ourselves to be "special" when we enter the stream. No good.

Okay I've said enough. Plenty to comment on now! =P