[OShellszz]

I'm glad of that! Usually you can't find two people who agree, when it comes to stuff like that. Well that's my experience anyway. It's fighting an uphill battle most of the time to try and explain (my understanding). I've even had trouble with more basic stuff, one person who couldn't comprehend that since the mind is where all things are experienced, in realizing Nirvana the mind no longer experiences dukkha. He was stuck on saying that pain still caused suffering to that mind, and I'm like nooo it's a sensation indicating damage, it doesn't disturb an enlightened mind, the whole point is to overcome dukkha and that's what Nirvana accomplishes!