Thread: Once Returner
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Old 11-20-2010, 02:24 PM   #10
Efonukmp

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But then, re-reading the text, it may possibly be as follows:

"Bhikkhus, living in this community there are bhikkhus who are Non-Returners through having ended the five lower fetters, who are spontaneously arisen, who will realize perfect Nibbana in that existence and by nature will never return to [rather than "from"] that world. Bhikkhus such as these are living in this community of bhikkhus. "That world" the mind does not return to is the world of "the five lower fetters".

"Bhikkhus, living in this community there are bhikkhus who are Once-Returners through having ended the three fetters and lessened lust and hatred, who will come back to this world only once and then will put an end to dukkha. Bhikkhus such as these are living in this community of bhikkhus. Now, what is not explained in the jhana suttas but is explained in the Anapanasati Sutta is there is the experience of the mental defilements between rapture & happiness (steps 5 to 8 ) and the final concentration & liberation of samadhi (steps 11 and 12).

So the term "once returner" may mean the practitioner, despite abandoning the five hindrances & entering jhana, must still experience the world of the defiled mind, namely, step 9 described in the Anapanasati Sutta.


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