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**VogsHoock** · 08-27-2010, 11:23 AM

Originally Posted by stuka Originally Posted by jan Right on!

The point remains that the Buddha was clear in his teaching. This "three ignoble truths and a Noble One" garbage is irrelevant. Oooof, that was way back, are you still there?

http://www.ashidakim.com/zenkoans/14muddyroad.html

Non Sequitur. Zen koans (actually this is a zen "story" rather than a koan) are not designed to help one avoid confronting reality through irrelevant one-liners.

Of course, if this website is where you get your "zen", from this "Sinsei Ashida Kim", that explains a lot:

(from http://www.ashidakim.com/ )

# Visit DOJO Press for a complete listing of Ashida Kim titles!
# FREE! Instant Self-Defense! Learn to fight back and LIVE!
# 2010 Chinese New Year Message
# The NINJA Network
# The $10,000 Challenge
# Ashida Kim Movie Credits
# History of the Black Dragon Ninja
# Have Black Belt- Will Travel
# Emerald Coast Seminar 2009
# Hall of Fame 2009
# Kajukenbo Seminar 2009
# Grandmaster Seminar 2008
# Italia 2006
# Munich 2006
# Ashida Kim on War
# 101 Zen Koans (parables)
# Crypto-Quote Game
# Vanishing Ninja Puzzle
# Autograph Jigsaw Puzzle
# Daily Sudoku Puzzle
# Interview with Sensei James Brown, 1993
# Interview with American Mensa, 1991
# Send email to Ashida Kim! DOJOPress@aol.com Oh, and a nice bit of Zen from Sinsei Ashida Kim himself:

Official Shit List

Return to AshidaKim.com

Books and Videos

Email

“I have four enemies, envy, lust, greed, and lethargy. If I can hold my own against these in this lifetime, then I shall consider myself a lucky man…”

Ashida Kim

This page was once a place where we posted the names of those who had offended or cheated Sensei Ashida Kim, the reasons they were selected for this distinction and our proposed course of action to rectify the situation. These miscreants included publishers and literary agents who stole millions of dollars in unreported and overseas sales, who refused to honor contracts signed in good faith and swapped Sensei’s intellectual property amongst themselves like vampires sucking the blood out of any other victim. But we stopped them. By asking people to boycott their products, by publishing Sensei’s books and videos ourselves.

There were trolls and cyber-commandoes, who, out of jealousy, pollute the internet with lies and slander and constant questions to which no amount of answer was satisfactory. All to get attention for themselves, so they could imagine and pretend that someone was listening to them, in a vain attempt to fill the awful loneliness of their pitiful lives. But we beat them. By ignoring them, by refusing to believe the trash and filth that they spew like little monkeys throwing their own feces at the zoo. For, indeed, they are no more than that.

Oh, the Zen of it!

Oh, and this is a Theravada forum. Zen stories and koans, no matter how inappropriately they are employed, are irrelevant.

08-27-2010, 11:23 AM	#22
VogsHoock Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 524 Senior Member	Originally Posted by stuka Originally Posted by jan Right on! The point remains that the Buddha was clear in his teaching. This "three ignoble truths and a Noble One" garbage is irrelevant. Oooof, that was way back, are you still there? http://www.ashidakim.com/zenkoans/14muddyroad.html Non Sequitur. Zen koans (actually this is a zen "story" rather than a koan) are not designed to help one avoid confronting reality through irrelevant one-liners. Of course, if this website is where you get your "zen", from this "Sinsei Ashida Kim", that explains a lot: (from http://www.ashidakim.com/ ) # Visit DOJO Press for a complete listing of Ashida Kim titles! # FREE! Instant Self-Defense! Learn to fight back and LIVE! # 2010 Chinese New Year Message # The NINJA Network # The $10,000 Challenge # Ashida Kim Movie Credits # History of the Black Dragon Ninja # Have Black Belt- Will Travel # Emerald Coast Seminar 2009 # Hall of Fame 2009 # Kajukenbo Seminar 2009 # Grandmaster Seminar 2008 # Italia 2006 # Munich 2006 # Ashida Kim on War # 101 Zen Koans (parables) # Crypto-Quote Game # Vanishing Ninja Puzzle # Autograph Jigsaw Puzzle # Daily Sudoku Puzzle # Interview with Sensei James Brown, 1993 # Interview with American Mensa, 1991 # Send email to Ashida Kim! DOJOPress@aol.com Oh, and a nice bit of Zen from Sinsei Ashida Kim himself: Official Shit List Return to AshidaKim.com Books and Videos Email “I have four enemies, envy, lust, greed, and lethargy. If I can hold my own against these in this lifetime, then I shall consider myself a lucky man…” Ashida Kim This page was once a place where we posted the names of those who had offended or cheated Sensei Ashida Kim, the reasons they were selected for this distinction and our proposed course of action to rectify the situation. These miscreants included publishers and literary agents who stole millions of dollars in unreported and overseas sales, who refused to honor contracts signed in good faith and swapped Sensei’s intellectual property amongst themselves like vampires sucking the blood out of any other victim. But we stopped them. By asking people to boycott their products, by publishing Sensei’s books and videos ourselves. There were trolls and cyber-commandoes, who, out of jealousy, pollute the internet with lies and slander and constant questions to which no amount of answer was satisfactory. All to get attention for themselves, so they could imagine and pretend that someone was listening to them, in a vain attempt to fill the awful loneliness of their pitiful lives. But we beat them. By ignoring them, by refusing to believe the trash and filth that they spew like little monkeys throwing their own feces at the zoo. For, indeed, they are no more than that. Oh, the Zen of it! Oh, and this is a Theravada forum. Zen stories and koans, no matter how inappropriately they are employed, are irrelevant.
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