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**BrianGoldsmith** · 07-18-2010, 02:46 AM

If I understand this correctly, these stories are volitional formations.

By "volitional formations", do you mean "sankhara"? If so, you might want to know that that particular notion was coined by Nyanatiloka in order to shoe-horn karma-belief into paticcasamuppada. See http://www.buddhanet.net/budsas/ebud...ict/dic3_s.htm

Nyanatiloka used "kamma" instead of "volition", but this is merely a derivative based upon the Buddha's defining kamma as cetana (volition). Same eisegesis, any way you look at it.

you are right that they are sankhara, in the sense of thinking and pondering as "speech sankhara" -- see the Culavedalls Sutta, MN 44:

http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipit....044.than.html

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BrianGoldsmith Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 479 Senior Member	If I understand this correctly, these stories are volitional formations. By "volitional formations", do you mean "sankhara"? If so, you might want to know that that particular notion was coined by Nyanatiloka in order to shoe-horn karma-belief into paticcasamuppada. See http://www.buddhanet.net/budsas/ebud...ict/dic3_s.htm Nyanatiloka used "kamma" instead of "volition", but this is merely a derivative based upon the Buddha's defining kamma as cetana (volition). Same eisegesis, any way you look at it. you are right that they are sankhara, in the sense of thinking and pondering as "speech sankhara" -- see the Culavedalls Sutta, MN 44: http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipit....044.than.html
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