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**unsamiSlini** · 03-02-2007, 02:24 PM

Concurred with the purchase frenzy...at the time that these thoughts were evolved the materials were readily available, but we have been cohearsed into thinking that others have to gather the materials that we need for life and we have to work our asses off so that they keep collecting those addictions, that we could very well collect ourselves.

Now on the subject of nothing beyond, I will have to disagree with you there. I've experienced energy existence beyond the body that we can "touch" and I don't reccomend that you wish to find this experience yourself..could be what your accident was all about...next time it may not be such a gentle nudge.

I have had some very hard life lessons, of which I manifested, so I tread lightly when I wish upon that which I cannot see...because it has bonked me time and time again.

I don't feel the need to push you in any direction Rake, I don't think any of us do...it is your destiny..what is it that you wish to do with the time you have here? That is the real question...that is the physical touching part...that is what you truly seek...Yes?

Yes, the Spiritual Industry will have it's cold hard cash. Anytime I've been to a "pagan store" or maybe a festival, I've noted the incredible prices. I have no problem with people attempting to make a living in a reasonable manner, and that's a reasonable manner if they can get the money, but spare me the diatribes about the importance of nature and the heights of enlightenment. Even Jesus allegedly said "render unto Caesar what is his, render unto God what is His" or whatever.

I accept that we disagree on the nothing beyond part. You've seen it, I haven't CC. That's simple to me as far as an example as to why someone might believe what they believe. If you mean my recent auto accident, it just happened, you'll have that with human beings in near proximity to each other, it wasn't directed, that's why they're called accidents. Heck, it didn't even qualify as a coincidence. It was probably closer to "fatalism,'' if it happened it happened. One of my favorite quotes, displayed at my desk at work: "Something that, in happening, causes something else to happen causes something else to happen." (Douglas Adams)

I know that you would not push me, perhaps if you thought it was for my own good, that's what friends do. But you are correct, the need is to make the most of what is here now, what I'm experiencing in the physical and real. How many times have we received or read the advice that we should live each day as if it were our last? That's not spirituality, that's just plain common sense. (And it's another topic again as to whether anyone is actually able to truly do that.)

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unsamiSlini Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 381 Senior Member	Concurred with the purchase frenzy...at the time that these thoughts were evolved the materials were readily available, but we have been cohearsed into thinking that others have to gather the materials that we need for life and we have to work our asses off so that they keep collecting those addictions, that we could very well collect ourselves. Now on the subject of nothing beyond, I will have to disagree with you there. I've experienced energy existence beyond the body that we can "touch" and I don't reccomend that you wish to find this experience yourself..could be what your accident was all about...next time it may not be such a gentle nudge. I have had some very hard life lessons, of which I manifested, so I tread lightly when I wish upon that which I cannot see...because it has bonked me time and time again. I don't feel the need to push you in any direction Rake, I don't think any of us do...it is your destiny..what is it that you wish to do with the time you have here? That is the real question...that is the physical touching part...that is what you truly seek...Yes? Yes, the Spiritual Industry will have it's cold hard cash. Anytime I've been to a "pagan store" or maybe a festival, I've noted the incredible prices. I have no problem with people attempting to make a living in a reasonable manner, and that's a reasonable manner if they can get the money, but spare me the diatribes about the importance of nature and the heights of enlightenment. Even Jesus allegedly said "render unto Caesar what is his, render unto God what is His" or whatever. I accept that we disagree on the nothing beyond part. You've seen it, I haven't CC. That's simple to me as far as an example as to why someone might believe what they believe. If you mean my recent auto accident, it just happened, you'll have that with human beings in near proximity to each other, it wasn't directed, that's why they're called accidents. Heck, it didn't even qualify as a coincidence. It was probably closer to "fatalism,'' if it happened it happened. One of my favorite quotes, displayed at my desk at work: "Something that, in happening, causes something else to happen causes something else to happen." (Douglas Adams) I know that you would not push me, perhaps if you thought it was for my own good, that's what friends do. But you are correct, the need is to make the most of what is here now, what I'm experiencing in the physical and real. How many times have we received or read the advice that we should live each day as if it were our last? That's not spirituality, that's just plain common sense. (And it's another topic again as to whether anyone is actually able to truly do that.)
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